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Fuel type? - 6-281 International
7 years 11 months ago - 7 years 11 months ago #169714
by Merrick
Fuel type? - 6-281 International was created by Merrick
Hi all,
Time to fill up again, I've been putting 98 or 95 ULP in my C1200 (with a squirt of lead substitue).
Someone mentioned to me that given it's low-comp this is unnecessary and standard 91 is fine.
What's your thoughts?
Time to fill up again, I've been putting 98 or 95 ULP in my C1200 (with a squirt of lead substitue).
Someone mentioned to me that given it's low-comp this is unnecessary and standard 91 is fine.
What's your thoughts?
Last edit: 7 years 11 months ago by Merrick.
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7 years 11 months ago - 7 years 11 months ago #169717
by wombat 46
Replied by wombat 46 on topic Fuel type? - 6-281 International
Merrick,
91 will be fine,
to get the octane up on 98 the fuel companies put additives
low octane can cause pre ignition or pinging on high comp or turbo engines,
as fuel sits in the tank it looses octane over time
if it is a daily driver try a tank of each and see which gives more mileage, that could be the only benefit i can see
JIm
91 will be fine,
to get the octane up on 98 the fuel companies put additives
low octane can cause pre ignition or pinging on high comp or turbo engines,
as fuel sits in the tank it looses octane over time
if it is a daily driver try a tank of each and see which gives more mileage, that could be the only benefit i can see
JIm
Last edit: 7 years 11 months ago by wombat 46. Reason: info
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7 years 11 months ago #169719
by asw120
“I offer my opponents a bargain: if they will stop telling lies about us, I will stop telling the truth about them”
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Replied by asw120 on topic Fuel type? - 6-281 International
95 is slightly less likely to give vapour lock and percolate in the carby, but there's not much in it. In theory, they should just about run on kerosine!
91 definately burns hotter (my bike used to run-on with it), but won't be a problem in a water-cooled engine.
Jarrod.
91 definately burns hotter (my bike used to run-on with it), but won't be a problem in a water-cooled engine.
Jarrod.
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7 years 11 months ago #169747
by bparo
Having lived through a pandemic I now understand all the painting of fat people on couches!
Replied by bparo on topic Fuel type? - 6-281 International
the 281 is only 6 or 7:1 compression so 91 is fine - it's what I have been running on Inters since 2003 (with upper cylinder lubricant). My stationary motors run a similar compression ratio and I haven't had a problem with them either
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7 years 11 months ago #169749
by Beaver
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Replied by Beaver on topic Fuel type? - 6-281 International
But avoid ethanol blends
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7 years 11 months ago #169770
by bparo
Having lived through a pandemic I now understand all the painting of fat people on couches!
Replied by bparo on topic Fuel type? - 6-281 International
I didn't think of ethanol blends as I just avoid them for everything anyway
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7 years 11 months ago - 7 years 11 months ago #169781
by Mrsmackpaul
Your better to die trying than live on your knees begging
Replied by Mrsmackpaul on topic Fuel type? - 6-281 International
Well just to throw the cat among the pigeons I dont reckon there is any problem with ethanol fuels I reckon its all a load of bull I use E 10 in everything no crook seals in carbys no crook fuel lines nothing no drama at all
I reckon people get some problem with some old jigger and blame the ethanol because they replace the seal hose gasket what ever and stop using E10 and never have another problem despite the old gasket was no doubt 20 - 30 or maybe 40 years old
E 10 is cheaper to buy runs just as well doesnt matter a bit about the octane been a tad bit lower as these old jiggers are low compression motors anyway
When I was a young fella hooning around we only had problems with motors pinging when the compression was raised to buggery then if you still wanted to get the full effect of the cam we would run it on Avgas for our serious hooning the rest of the time we would just put the dizzy back around closer to were it was meant to be
So my thoughts for what there worth E 10 is fine dont believe the hype
just saying
Paul
I reckon people get some problem with some old jigger and blame the ethanol because they replace the seal hose gasket what ever and stop using E10 and never have another problem despite the old gasket was no doubt 20 - 30 or maybe 40 years old
E 10 is cheaper to buy runs just as well doesnt matter a bit about the octane been a tad bit lower as these old jiggers are low compression motors anyway
When I was a young fella hooning around we only had problems with motors pinging when the compression was raised to buggery then if you still wanted to get the full effect of the cam we would run it on Avgas for our serious hooning the rest of the time we would just put the dizzy back around closer to were it was meant to be
So my thoughts for what there worth E 10 is fine dont believe the hype
just saying
Paul
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7 years 11 months ago #169782
by Merrick
Replied by Merrick on topic Fuel type? - 6-281 International
Thanks folks.
I'll try 91 next fill and see if there's any difference.
I'll try 91 next fill and see if there's any difference.
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7 years 11 months ago #169803
by geoffb
Replied by geoffb on topic Fuel type? - 6-281 International
Ran E 85 no problems as Paul said sometimes change is a bit hard to accept
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7 years 11 months ago #169814
by asw120
“I offer my opponents a bargain: if they will stop telling lies about us, I will stop telling the truth about them”
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Replied by asw120 on topic Fuel type? - 6-281 International
I used to run E10 in everything. Had no problems in daily-driven vehicles. Pinged/ran-on no worse than standard in my bike. My old 360 Cherokee wouldn't run on it, though the Studes don't seem to mind.
Now, things that sit around, however........
Ethanol is hygroscopic, I read. I have two bikes with the carby slides glued solid, one with the pistons glued in as well - E10. Old, tired fuel tap seals? You bet, but it never happened with standard ULP. I also seized my yard blower twice on it.
Now I run 95 in all that stuff. E10 should be OK in water-cooled things that don't sit around unused for weeks at a time.
Jarrod.
Now, things that sit around, however........
Ethanol is hygroscopic, I read. I have two bikes with the carby slides glued solid, one with the pistons glued in as well - E10. Old, tired fuel tap seals? You bet, but it never happened with standard ULP. I also seized my yard blower twice on it.
Now I run 95 in all that stuff. E10 should be OK in water-cooled things that don't sit around unused for weeks at a time.
Jarrod.
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