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Grunty Beddy - 250hp rig...how?
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15 years 2 months ago - 15 years 2 months ago #11208
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15 years 2 months ago - 15 years 2 months ago #11209
by GM Diesel
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Ringfeder on the front and 250 hp KW on the front with a stiff bar
Powered trailer I reckon....no other reason to have a fuel tank on the trailer
Powered trailer I reckon....no other reason to have a fuel tank on the trailer
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15 years 2 months ago #11210
by atkipete
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It must be a powered trailer, question is how did they control it ? A lot of Kiwi trucks had tow couplings up front for shunting trailers into a tight spot.
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15 years 2 months ago #11211
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Too easy for you guys, there's a Thames Trader Diesel mounted between the chassis rails of the trailer, with a twin disc torque converter and 2 speed auto.
In the cab was an extra instrument binnacle with rev counter, thottle toggle, start key etc. There were micro switches on the throttle and clutch to control the trailer engine speed.
Apparently the pluses were;
A tight turning circle because the trailer engine could push the rig. It was easy to back, just line the rig up and use the trailer engine to pull the rig backwards.
If the truck broke down the trailer could push you home.
The main drawback was trouble with the many solenoids because the trailer engine was close to the road, most of which were gravel, so dusty when dry and mucky when wet.
More powerful trucks pretty much spelled the end of the powered trailer concept...
In the cab was an extra instrument binnacle with rev counter, thottle toggle, start key etc. There were micro switches on the throttle and clutch to control the trailer engine speed.
Apparently the pluses were;
A tight turning circle because the trailer engine could push the rig. It was easy to back, just line the rig up and use the trailer engine to pull the rig backwards.
If the truck broke down the trailer could push you home.
The main drawback was trouble with the many solenoids because the trailer engine was close to the road, most of which were gravel, so dusty when dry and mucky when wet.
More powerful trucks pretty much spelled the end of the powered trailer concept...
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15 years 2 months ago #11212
by GM Diesel
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Howdy Bruce,
Powertrans have been operating powered trailers in the North of WA for a few years using a Cummins combination system.
Cummins and Allison auto in the third trailer hooked up electronically with the tug.
Cool to watch taking off with smoke coming out of the trailer exhaust...if you dont know the setup its a real "what tha...."
Detroit are now joining in.. www.mtudda.com.au/index.php?id=33&item=143#d
Basil
Powertrans have been operating powered trailers in the North of WA for a few years using a Cummins combination system.
Cummins and Allison auto in the third trailer hooked up electronically with the tug.
Cool to watch taking off with smoke coming out of the trailer exhaust...if you dont know the setup its a real "what tha...."
Detroit are now joining in.. www.mtudda.com.au/index.php?id=33&item=143#d
Basil
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15 years 2 months ago #11213
by Atki-vated
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Hi Basil,
There ya go, can't keep a good idea down!
I think the concept actually originated in Canada for powering logging trailers and the idea was picked by a visiting kiwi.
I reckon modern day electronics and fly by wire will make the concept much more practical these days than back in'65
There ya go, can't keep a good idea down!
I think the concept actually originated in Canada for powering logging trailers and the idea was picked by a visiting kiwi.
I reckon modern day electronics and fly by wire will make the concept much more practical these days than back in'65
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13 years 11 months ago #11214
by Fuller-Vit
In the beginning God created Seddon and ERF
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Pretty sure that trailer killed a driver when it failed to decellerate in a bend on a gravel road.
Transport North Canterbury was a very innovative company.
Transport North Canterbury was a very innovative company.
In the beginning God created Seddon and ERF
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13 years 11 months ago #11215
by MACKFR8
1974 1418LS 4x2 prime mover
1974 1418LS 4x2 rigid
1973 1418 4+2 prime mover
1973 1418 prime mover
1981W model Kenworth
36 ft Flat top bogey
Replied by MACKFR8 on topic Re: Grunty Beddy - 250hp rig...how?
I'm new and I know this is an old thread but, is there a second 400 motor in the rear trailer and if so, how is it controlled.
1974 1418LS 4x2 prime mover
1974 1418LS 4x2 rigid
1973 1418 4+2 prime mover
1973 1418 prime mover
1981W model Kenworth
36 ft Flat top bogey
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