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14 years 6 months ago #24606 by bigcam
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There's asurprise, International sold UD CMA86/87 as International N1630/N1650, when they didn't have a model that could compete in the market place.

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14 years 6 months ago #24607 by Adrian
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I don't know about the cabover DAF / Inter, but it certainly doesn't look right to put "DAF" onto the grille of an Inter Paystar. Sacrilege! Would be like grafting a Kenworth badge onto.....say.....a Volkswagon cabin! ;)

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14 years 6 months ago - 14 years 6 months ago #24608 by Tatra
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G'Day All,

The solution to the riddle is as follows:

Many years ago, before PACCAR ever thought of acquiring any European truck manufacturers, van Doorne's Automobiel Fabriek, otherwise known as DAF, had 33% of its shares bought by International Harvester (International was truly international back then - it also had controlling interest in Atkinson (UK/Oz) and Pegaso (Spain)). One of the results of the above was the DAF 2500NAT (the orange and green bonnetted truck Swishy posted), which was really an International's Paystar with the Dutch engine (but US axles and transmission (Fuller, which was offered in the "real" DAFs anyway), I believe. I don't know whether the chassis/cabs were shiped from the US or made from drawings in Holland...). I don't think the model was a huge success - it was only made for one year (1974-1975) - US made trucks (or ones paterned on them) rarely succeed in Europe (and vice versa), as condtions and regulations in the two continents are very different, but I'm sure you know that... The later bonnetted DAF (also posted by Swishy) is a different animal, an own development with no IH connections.

The "Dafstar" is relatively well known, but DAF and IH also collaborated on the COE model I posted, which was, I believe, marketed only in African countries. There was a choice of DAF and Cummins engines, Fuller and ZF boxes. I have no idea how many of these things sold or why they bothered - one would think it made more sense to export Aussi-made ACCOs to South Africa, for example, and LHD US made Transtars to the African countries where they drove on the left :-/?

International and DAF parted ways in 1981.

Source of the pics + spec sheets here:

public.fotki.com/modeltrucks25thscale/tr...international_ft280/

public.fotki.com/modeltrucks25thscale/tr...international_ftt28/

public.fotki.com/modeltrucks25thscale/tr...international_ftt29/

Right, I'll go get some schnitzels.

Cheers,

T

PS: Nobody got it quite right but most got close, so here goes:

http://www.schnitzelhaus.com/show_file.php?table=artikel&col=bild&id=1
http://www.schnitzelhaus.com/show_file.php?table=artikel&col=bild&id=1
http://www.schnitzelhaus.com/show_file.php?table=artikel&col=bild&id=1
http://www.schnitzelhaus.com/show_file.php?table=artikel&col=bild&id=1
http://www.schnitzelhaus.com/show_file.php?table=artikel&col=bild&id=1

and Swishy gets 2500 calories of an Apfelbutterstreusel for posting them pics:

Last edit: 14 years 6 months ago by Tatra.

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