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14 years 4 months ago #27901
by VicHung
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Yep, I thought it was that model Austin too, but I didn't know whether they were ever assembled in Australia.
As a matter of interest, that model Austin is the truck I got my heavy truck licence in, in 1957.
As a matter of interest, that model Austin is the truck I got my heavy truck licence in, in 1957.
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14 years 4 months ago - 14 years 4 months ago #27902
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Vic - This following article might assist you some, although the info is centred around car production, and not trucks. However, in most cases, where a company had car and truck lines .. the trucks of the same company, were usually built in the same factory as the cars. There were a few exceptions to this, however.
Nuffield (later BMC) purchased land at Zetland, a suburb of Sydney in 1950, and built a factory there. I am led to believe this is the factory in the above pics. This factory produced all the Nuffield line of cars and trucks.
The area was formerly known as Victoria Park, and the land purchased by Lord Nuffield was the Victoria Park Racecourse.
Interestingly, the decision to built the factory in Australia was taken against the wishes of the other board directors of the Nuffield Co.
Article courtesy of "Australia on CD" ..
"In December 1939, the Australian government entered into an agreement with Australian Consolidated Industries (ACI) for the production of vehicles; based on 1938 legislation, the agreement enabled the payment of a bounty on the production of each engine, as well as protection from foreign-owned competition.
The Motor Vehicles Agreement Act 1940, gave ACI practically exclusive rights to manufacture chassis and engines in Australia.
The combined effect of the Motor Vehicles Agreement Act and the Bounty Act was to prohibit companies with less than two-thirds Australian ownership from building engines or chassis.
Due to the outbreak of the WW2, ACI's output never developed to the intended level of full production.
Just before the end of WW2, in early 1945, the Australian Govt recognised a need to assist industry to move from wartime production, to civilian production .. and established the Secondary Industries Commission within the Department of Post-War Reconstruction.
The Commission was instrumental in having the ACI Agreement and the Bounty Act repealed, allowing foreign-owned companies to establish chassis and engine works, and paving the way for the construction of complete vehicles.
The Department of Post-War Reconstruction wrote to every known manufacturer and assembler of motor vehicles and motor vehicle components, seeking to establish the state of their development, their plans for future production and their desires for government assistance. The Department was prepared to offer financial assistance and tariff protection to assist a company to manufacture entire vehicles in Australia.
Five proposals for the manufacture of complete cars were received, from Ford (US), General Motors (US), The Nuffield Group (BMC), Standard-Triumph and Chrysler-Dodge (US).
With government support, it was hoped that 45,000 vehicles would be manufactured in Australia each year to supply an estimated market of 75,000.
The Cabinet decided to support only the Holden and Ford proposals, though Ford would be offered less assistance than requested.
The low requirement for government assistance made Holden's bid attractive; the major drawback of Ford's plan was the requirement for a high level of assistance. The Cabinet made a counter offer to Ford, but Ford rejected the government's offer in 1946 and decided to reduce the pace of its expansion, but still entered into full scale manufacture.
Despite the rejection of Government assistance, the three unsuccessful proposees all went ahead with both vehicle assembly and full manufacture.
Nuffield built a factory on land it purchased in the Sydney suburb of Zetland in 1950; a year later, Chrysler acquired the long established South Australian motor body builder TJ Richards, who had built bodies on North American Chrysler chassies for many years at a factory at Keswick, Adelaide, and used Richards' factory to build its cars; Standard-Triumph (later to become the Rootes Group) built a new plant at Port Melbourne at the premises of Eclipse Motors - a company that previously had assembled its cars - which it bought into after World War II. Standard-Triumph began building cars at the plant from imported parts in 1952.
The introduction of import licenses for motor cars into Australia in 1953 led other motor car manufacturers to investigate the possibility of local assembly using what was known as the CKD [Completely Knocked Down] system.
By this method, the parent company shipped all parts unassembled in crates and the regional plants assembled the cars from a mix of locally sourced third-party components like glass, light fittings, batteries, alternators, spark plugs and leads etc., and the supplied parts.
Using the CKD assembly system, the assemblers could increase local content (often lowering the duty on imported parts) and the cars could be modified to suit local conditions (cloth seats for our warmer climate, stiffer suspension etc) and public expectations (more powerful engines etc).
Unless vehicle manufacturers negotiated local assembly arangements, the prevailing import licensing restrictions stifled the realisation of market potential."
The above pictures form part of the Harold Paynting Collection, a superb collection of pictures acquired by Paynting from a commercial photographer, one Lyle Fowler, who was not only a prolific photographer .. but he was also an automobile enthusiast.
Fowlers archive consisted of between 14,000 and 15,000 8 x 10 negatives, all in good condition, and nearly all of which were labelled, dated and identified .. and taken between approximately 1932 and 1972.
Fowlers pictorial record is particularly valuable, not only for its content .. but because it has largely survived. Many old pictorial archives were disposed of, for their silver content, and their visual content wasn't regarded as having any value.
We have people such as Paynting and Fowler to thank for their foresight in taking and preserving such a valuable collection from that era.
Nuffield (later BMC) purchased land at Zetland, a suburb of Sydney in 1950, and built a factory there. I am led to believe this is the factory in the above pics. This factory produced all the Nuffield line of cars and trucks.
The area was formerly known as Victoria Park, and the land purchased by Lord Nuffield was the Victoria Park Racecourse.
Interestingly, the decision to built the factory in Australia was taken against the wishes of the other board directors of the Nuffield Co.
Article courtesy of "Australia on CD" ..
"In December 1939, the Australian government entered into an agreement with Australian Consolidated Industries (ACI) for the production of vehicles; based on 1938 legislation, the agreement enabled the payment of a bounty on the production of each engine, as well as protection from foreign-owned competition.
The Motor Vehicles Agreement Act 1940, gave ACI practically exclusive rights to manufacture chassis and engines in Australia.
The combined effect of the Motor Vehicles Agreement Act and the Bounty Act was to prohibit companies with less than two-thirds Australian ownership from building engines or chassis.
Due to the outbreak of the WW2, ACI's output never developed to the intended level of full production.
Just before the end of WW2, in early 1945, the Australian Govt recognised a need to assist industry to move from wartime production, to civilian production .. and established the Secondary Industries Commission within the Department of Post-War Reconstruction.
The Commission was instrumental in having the ACI Agreement and the Bounty Act repealed, allowing foreign-owned companies to establish chassis and engine works, and paving the way for the construction of complete vehicles.
The Department of Post-War Reconstruction wrote to every known manufacturer and assembler of motor vehicles and motor vehicle components, seeking to establish the state of their development, their plans for future production and their desires for government assistance. The Department was prepared to offer financial assistance and tariff protection to assist a company to manufacture entire vehicles in Australia.
Five proposals for the manufacture of complete cars were received, from Ford (US), General Motors (US), The Nuffield Group (BMC), Standard-Triumph and Chrysler-Dodge (US).
With government support, it was hoped that 45,000 vehicles would be manufactured in Australia each year to supply an estimated market of 75,000.
The Cabinet decided to support only the Holden and Ford proposals, though Ford would be offered less assistance than requested.
The low requirement for government assistance made Holden's bid attractive; the major drawback of Ford's plan was the requirement for a high level of assistance. The Cabinet made a counter offer to Ford, but Ford rejected the government's offer in 1946 and decided to reduce the pace of its expansion, but still entered into full scale manufacture.
Despite the rejection of Government assistance, the three unsuccessful proposees all went ahead with both vehicle assembly and full manufacture.
Nuffield built a factory on land it purchased in the Sydney suburb of Zetland in 1950; a year later, Chrysler acquired the long established South Australian motor body builder TJ Richards, who had built bodies on North American Chrysler chassies for many years at a factory at Keswick, Adelaide, and used Richards' factory to build its cars; Standard-Triumph (later to become the Rootes Group) built a new plant at Port Melbourne at the premises of Eclipse Motors - a company that previously had assembled its cars - which it bought into after World War II. Standard-Triumph began building cars at the plant from imported parts in 1952.
The introduction of import licenses for motor cars into Australia in 1953 led other motor car manufacturers to investigate the possibility of local assembly using what was known as the CKD [Completely Knocked Down] system.
By this method, the parent company shipped all parts unassembled in crates and the regional plants assembled the cars from a mix of locally sourced third-party components like glass, light fittings, batteries, alternators, spark plugs and leads etc., and the supplied parts.
Using the CKD assembly system, the assemblers could increase local content (often lowering the duty on imported parts) and the cars could be modified to suit local conditions (cloth seats for our warmer climate, stiffer suspension etc) and public expectations (more powerful engines etc).
Unless vehicle manufacturers negotiated local assembly arangements, the prevailing import licensing restrictions stifled the realisation of market potential."
The above pictures form part of the Harold Paynting Collection, a superb collection of pictures acquired by Paynting from a commercial photographer, one Lyle Fowler, who was not only a prolific photographer .. but he was also an automobile enthusiast.
Fowlers archive consisted of between 14,000 and 15,000 8 x 10 negatives, all in good condition, and nearly all of which were labelled, dated and identified .. and taken between approximately 1932 and 1972.
Fowlers pictorial record is particularly valuable, not only for its content .. but because it has largely survived. Many old pictorial archives were disposed of, for their silver content, and their visual content wasn't regarded as having any value.
We have people such as Paynting and Fowler to thank for their foresight in taking and preserving such a valuable collection from that era.
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14 years 4 months ago - 14 years 4 months ago #27903
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From the Canberra Times (ACT), Thursday 2nd March, 1950 ..
NUFFIELD CARMAKING FACTORY OPENED
SYDNEY: Wednesday.
Opening the car factory of the Nuffield organisation at Victoria Park, the Premier (Mr McGirr) said he visualised the east coast as one of the most industrial areas of the British Commonwealth.
He considered the decision of Lord Nuffield, to establish the factory, as a mark of his confidence in the great future of Australia.
The factory will employ from 500 to 600 hands within a few months.
Aerial plan of Nuffield factory, Sydney .. www3.photosau.com/cos/scripts/ExtSearch.asp?SearchTerm=033282
Construction of the Nuffield factory, Sydney, 1949 ..
www3.photosau.com/cos/scripts/ExtSearch.asp?SearchTerm=033283
www3.photosau.com/cos/scripts/ExtSearch.asp?SearchTerm=033281
By 1954, the British Motor Corporation had been formed, and it had expanded the Sydney factory, and commenced BMC vehicle assembly at this factory in West Melbourne ..
www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/gid/slv-pic-aab89165/1/a41750
www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/gid/slv-pic-aab89165/1/a41749
www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/gid/slv-pic-aab89165/1/a41748
NUFFIELD CARMAKING FACTORY OPENED
SYDNEY: Wednesday.
Opening the car factory of the Nuffield organisation at Victoria Park, the Premier (Mr McGirr) said he visualised the east coast as one of the most industrial areas of the British Commonwealth.
He considered the decision of Lord Nuffield, to establish the factory, as a mark of his confidence in the great future of Australia.
The factory will employ from 500 to 600 hands within a few months.
Aerial plan of Nuffield factory, Sydney .. www3.photosau.com/cos/scripts/ExtSearch.asp?SearchTerm=033282
Construction of the Nuffield factory, Sydney, 1949 ..
www3.photosau.com/cos/scripts/ExtSearch.asp?SearchTerm=033283
www3.photosau.com/cos/scripts/ExtSearch.asp?SearchTerm=033281
By 1954, the British Motor Corporation had been formed, and it had expanded the Sydney factory, and commenced BMC vehicle assembly at this factory in West Melbourne ..
www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/gid/slv-pic-aab89165/1/a41750
www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/gid/slv-pic-aab89165/1/a41749
www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/gid/slv-pic-aab89165/1/a41748
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14 years 4 months ago #27904
by Swishy
RE:The factory will employ from 500 to 600 hands within a few months.
eye presume we divede by 2 az we all have 2 hands
Unless U're from the Left coast
they have nuther hand to light lift any thing th@ aint screwed down
LOL
Cya
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OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
Replied by Swishy on topic Re: Truck cabins
RE:The factory will employ from 500 to 600 hands within a few months.
eye presume we divede by 2 az we all have 2 hands
Unless U're from the Left coast
they have nuther hand to light lift any thing th@ aint screwed down
LOL
Cya
[ch9787]
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
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14 years 4 months ago #27905
by VicHung
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Onetrack, thanks for all that info; very interesting, it sounds a bit like here in NZ in the same period where almost all vehicles sold here were also assembled here.
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14 years 4 months ago #27906
by atkipete
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Great background there Ron, Those buildings in West Melb are still there,just across the road from the new jail. I think that one was later used by Telecom and Aussie Post as a car depot and I used to go to the next one to pick up cars from Department of Admin Services.
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14 years 4 months ago #27907
by bigcam
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Victorian Beer, AtkiPete? Is that VB, otherwise known up here as Visitors Beer,because you give it to the visitors and keep the XXXX to yourself.I reckon Bigcam has nailed it and I owe him a real Victorian beer. Was thinking Ford K series, Canadian Dodge etc and missed the obvious answer.
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14 years 4 months ago #27908
by atkipete
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Put it on my tab mate, have you got a truck show up there soon ?
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14 years 4 months ago #27909
by cribotow
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Hey i passed that Austin house truck on the way to Lake Goldsmith,....then..... i think everything passed him 
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