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4 years 1 month ago #212876
by Dave_64
Always bemused me the lengths the Seppos were running their primemovers,
Swishy's picture 212871 really shows the extremes,
Obviously the short ass one is some sort of special application, but look at the length of the one in the snap above!
I have always been led to believe that most of the States their trailers were measured from centre of turntable pin to rear of trailer bumper bar.
Someone mentioned that the length of the P/M plus trailer were governed NOT by any overall length (As we used to be here) but worked out on a MINIMUM of axle spacings to suit some bridge weight limits.
IF that were the case across the board, how did they get away with weights they were allowed to carry over a closed bogie trailer?
Meanwhile in other States of the US, have seen photos of say, tankers, sometimes carrying specialised cargo, with anything up to SIX axles under a relatively short trailer, some must be lift up.
Maybe it used to be a dogs breakfast like our own State laws in years gone by, everyone run their own race and the relevant (State) authorities collected fines accordingly for each and every transgression?
Without getting too involved, you would have thought that each and every state may have been overseen by some Federal body, at least as far as cross border running were concerned.
Even their rail network, nearly all private enterprise, seems to be administered by a Federal body who also seems to set things like loading gauges, weights, speeds etc.
Maybe they have something in place over there which leaves administration to each States governing body.
Perhaps if Brocky45 reads this, he may be able to give us a thumbnail sketch>>
Dave_64
Swishy's picture 212871 really shows the extremes,
Obviously the short ass one is some sort of special application, but look at the length of the one in the snap above!
I have always been led to believe that most of the States their trailers were measured from centre of turntable pin to rear of trailer bumper bar.
Someone mentioned that the length of the P/M plus trailer were governed NOT by any overall length (As we used to be here) but worked out on a MINIMUM of axle spacings to suit some bridge weight limits.
IF that were the case across the board, how did they get away with weights they were allowed to carry over a closed bogie trailer?
Meanwhile in other States of the US, have seen photos of say, tankers, sometimes carrying specialised cargo, with anything up to SIX axles under a relatively short trailer, some must be lift up.
Maybe it used to be a dogs breakfast like our own State laws in years gone by, everyone run their own race and the relevant (State) authorities collected fines accordingly for each and every transgression?
Without getting too involved, you would have thought that each and every state may have been overseen by some Federal body, at least as far as cross border running were concerned.
Even their rail network, nearly all private enterprise, seems to be administered by a Federal body who also seems to set things like loading gauges, weights, speeds etc.
Maybe they have something in place over there which leaves administration to each States governing body.
Perhaps if Brocky45 reads this, he may be able to give us a thumbnail sketch>>
Dave_64
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4 years 1 month ago - 4 years 1 month ago #212903
by Lang
Dave
We need Brocky to put us in the picture but I believe the days of 15 individual state plates on the truck has gone and they all are running "Aportioned" plates. This means 59 states and territories have agreed to work together. Each state takes the fees from their residents then apportions the money according to the distance the truck does in each state.
This is still a hopeless PITA because it goes back to the old Australian road tax days. I doubt it is much improvement on trying to keep up with 15 registrations and plates as previously because you still have to keep mileage records. Big companies must have rooms full of people doing nothing else but tracking truck mileages and state breakdown. Maybe computers make it a bit quicker.
I may be wrong but this is what I can see on Google at the moment.
Lang
We need Brocky to put us in the picture but I believe the days of 15 individual state plates on the truck has gone and they all are running "Aportioned" plates. This means 59 states and territories have agreed to work together. Each state takes the fees from their residents then apportions the money according to the distance the truck does in each state.
This is still a hopeless PITA because it goes back to the old Australian road tax days. I doubt it is much improvement on trying to keep up with 15 registrations and plates as previously because you still have to keep mileage records. Big companies must have rooms full of people doing nothing else but tracking truck mileages and state breakdown. Maybe computers make it a bit quicker.
I may be wrong but this is what I can see on Google at the moment.
Lang
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4 years 1 month ago #212918
by Swishy
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
No pulln the wool over WorkHorse eyes
LOL
Well dun Werk
drinx 4 U
Yes az Werk sez tiz A:
1949 International w30?
Wotzit # 637
B 1st with a WAG to get a wee drink
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cya
LOL
Well dun Werk
drinx 4 U
Yes az Werk sez tiz A:
1949 International w30?
Wotzit # 637
B 1st with a WAG to get a wee drink
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cya
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
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4 years 1 month ago #212968
by Swishy
Yes Well dun ....... Drinx 4 U
U kno where u're fridge iz
Yes tiz A:
Murty
Murty Brothers started business in 1938. In 1939, they developed the Twin Steering Axle and patented it in 1943. In 1949 they designed the Air Spring Brake and later sold the patent to Bendix. In 1951, they developed and patented a mechanical tilting cabover truck cab
Wotzit # 638
cya
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
Yes Well dun ....... Drinx 4 U
U kno where u're fridge iz
Yes tiz A:
Murty
Murty Brothers started business in 1938. In 1939, they developed the Twin Steering Axle and patented it in 1943. In 1949 they designed the Air Spring Brake and later sold the patent to Bendix. In 1951, they developed and patented a mechanical tilting cabover truck cab
Wotzit # 638
cya
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
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