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2 years 11 months ago #221048
by blastermike
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Does anyone know where i could get solid steel rivets, im after 1/2 inch by 2 inch roundhead solid steel rivets to repair a truck chassis,
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2 years 11 months ago - 2 years 11 months ago #221051
by Lang
Replied by Lang on topic Steel rivets
These people might be able to direct you to the right place.
nhtb.com.au/rivets-solid-rivets-mushroom-head-solid-rivets.html
If no luck maybe this mob
www.cdaets.com.au/Fasteners-Fixings-Bolt...ws/Rivets/Round-Head
nhtb.com.au/rivets-solid-rivets-mushroom-head-solid-rivets.html
If no luck maybe this mob
www.cdaets.com.au/Fasteners-Fixings-Bolt...ws/Rivets/Round-Head
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2 years 11 months ago #221054
by hayseed
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Replied by hayseed on topic Steel rivets
Chassis Rivets have been discussed Before..
www.hcvc.com.au/forum/topic/id-12138?start=0
www.hcvc.com.au/forum/restore/2300-to-rivet-or-not-to-rivet
www.hcvc.com.au/forum/restore/16977-replacing-rivets
www.hcvc.com.au/forum/restore/14814-chas...il-repair-techniques
www.hcvc.com.au/forum/restore/16363-chassis-rivets
Personally I'd Just use some grade 8 Bolts with hardened Washers & Lock nuts..
www.hcvc.com.au/forum/topic/id-12138?start=0
www.hcvc.com.au/forum/restore/2300-to-rivet-or-not-to-rivet
www.hcvc.com.au/forum/restore/16977-replacing-rivets
www.hcvc.com.au/forum/restore/14814-chas...il-repair-techniques
www.hcvc.com.au/forum/restore/16363-chassis-rivets
Personally I'd Just use some grade 8 Bolts with hardened Washers & Lock nuts..
"Be who you are and say what you feel...
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2 years 11 months ago - 2 years 11 months ago #221055
by Lang
Replied by Lang on topic Steel rivets
Hayseed
I suspect chassis rivets are just mild steel. Will have to check a bit more.
I saw somewhere that Kenworth now use bolts instead of rivets (maybe on this forum) and they are Grade 6 which are still "high Tensile" but not as brittle as Grade 8 in a flexing situation. Aircraft bolts are 90% Grade 6.
This may or may not be useful.
Lang
I suspect chassis rivets are just mild steel. Will have to check a bit more.
I saw somewhere that Kenworth now use bolts instead of rivets (maybe on this forum) and they are Grade 6 which are still "high Tensile" but not as brittle as Grade 8 in a flexing situation. Aircraft bolts are 90% Grade 6.
This may or may not be useful.
Lang
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2 years 11 months ago - 2 years 11 months ago #221056
by jon_d
Replied by jon_d on topic Steel rivets
Yes,
I just used bolts. But be careful to keep the hole as small as possible so things don't move around. When rivets are pulled down, they bow out and fill the hole. So, while there is a clamping action, there is a "locking/jamming" expansion action in the hole too.
I've heard that there are special chassis bolts where the shank is larger than the thread. And the shank is pulled into the hole which has the expansion action similar to a solid rivet.... not sure where you get them from.
I just used bolts. But be careful to keep the hole as small as possible so things don't move around. When rivets are pulled down, they bow out and fill the hole. So, while there is a clamping action, there is a "locking/jamming" expansion action in the hole too.
I've heard that there are special chassis bolts where the shank is larger than the thread. And the shank is pulled into the hole which has the expansion action similar to a solid rivet.... not sure where you get them from.
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2 years 11 months ago #221057
by PDU
Replied by PDU on topic Steel rivets
Does that not sound similar to wheel studs???
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2 years 11 months ago #221064
by JOHN.K.
Replied by JOHN.K. on topic Steel rivets
Mack used to advertize "body bound bolts" holding their chassis together.....Des Stevenson pulled two new Macks apart and couldnt find one body bound bolt.....so Mack rebuilt both the trucks he d bought ,and never advertized the claim again........Incidentally ,I recall Kenworths being held together with "Huck Rivets",which couldnt be replaced without the proper gear.
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2 years 11 months ago #221070
by JOHN.K.
Replied by JOHN.K. on topic Steel rivets
The attraction of rivets to chassis builders was the holes didnt need to line up........even half a hole misalignment.... would be filled with a smaller rivet ...another common bodge with chassis was to put shims in between the pieces then rivet the lot together.......chassis rivet were not rivetted hot but upset cold with closers worked by hydraulic units......steam boilers were also mostly cold rivetted with a device called a "gap rivetter"...which could be 60ft long to take a big boiler shell...
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2 years 11 months ago #221072
by Dave_64
Replied by Dave_64 on topic Steel rivets
Just my two bobs worth with replacing chassis rivets, after drilling out the old ones, replaced with Allen keyed socket head domed bolts with hardened wahers and lock nuts on the inside of the rails. I filled in the socket head after tightening, with a smidge of body filler bog, sanded it off, hoiked a good dose of chassis paint on it, never had any comeback after. Dave
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2 years 11 months ago #221080
by blastermike
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Thanks for the information guys, ive sent off a request to jcee’s in the states and another contact i know off in the uk,
boiler rivets are soft mild steel and this is what will work best apparently to replace the ones in my old chassis which im trying to keep the authentic look,
Cheers mike
boiler rivets are soft mild steel and this is what will work best apparently to replace the ones in my old chassis which im trying to keep the authentic look,
Cheers mike
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