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14 years 1 month ago #38540 by murphys
I am currently restoring a late AA110 inter travelall with the ABD 240 engine and was wondering what colour these motors where originally.It is blue at present though the gearbox is the red.Also any leads as to who might sell parts for both the motors and the rest of the vehicle would be greatly appreciated

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14 years 1 month ago #38541 by
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Murphys - There seems to be a great deal of confusion over the original ABD engine colour, and this came about it seems, by the range of colours that Inter used for engines.

It appears there may have been a great deal of "artistic licence" taken by the IH factory, as the engine colour appears to have occasionally varied.
Some military engines are reportedly painted grey. However, these may have been army-reconditioned engines, too.

Certainly engine reconditioners would have ignored original colours, and used their own "standout" colour.
So, as most of these engines have been reconditioned, you're likely to have a wide range of colours.

The ABD-240 is supposed to stand for ..

A = Australian-built engine
BD = Black diamond model
240 = capacity in cubic inches

The confusion comes from IH using "BD" designation for earlier "Blue Diamond" engine models, which were fitted to the K-6, K-7, KB-6 and KB-7 models of IH trucks.

The AB series appeared with a modified and upgraded engine known as the AGD series (Australian Gold Diamond) and these were painted gold from the factory.

When the C series appeared, the AGD engines were redesigned slightly (mostly relating to valve seat angles, but other small changes too), and three new models of engine appeared.
These were the 6-281 (single carby, and single exhaust manifold with single outlet) .. the 6-282 (single carby and dual exhaust manifolds/dual exhaust outlets) .. and the 6-283 (twin carbies, and dual exhaust manifolds/dual exhaust outlets).
All these engines were basically the same engine, but had minor modifications between them, according to the model.

Cheers - Ron.

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14 years 1 month ago #38542 by acco1840
The AS and AA International had an ABD 240 motor.
These were an Australian BLUE Diamond.

Easy way to find out this, Does it have a 2 barrel carby (4 studs and nuts to hold it on) and a Lucas Distributor with Screw in Plug leads? If so, It's a BLUE diamond motor.

Can you uplaod a photo or 2 mate?
And what parts are you after?
I have a few NOS and SH bits.


1971 Butterbox Acco 1840 V8

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14 years 1 month ago - 14 years 1 month ago #38543 by
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ACCO1840 - The info I have, is that the AS series was released in early 1957 with adverts advertising the "new ABD-264 Black Diamond, tilt valve engine" .. :)

It appears that sometime after 1957, IHC Australia commenced to paint these engines blue.
Whether this change was because of an engine upgrade, or because it was just a corporate decision, seems to be unknown.
Even the Americans are confused on engine colours, with argument raging as to what colour their engines of the late 1950's were painted.

www.binderplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?p=494897

Cheers - Ron.

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14 years 1 month ago #38544 by murphys
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It is a australian blue diamond motor from the your description and what remains of the paint is blue. It just looked a little odd with the red gearbox.The parts I require are generally body parts like a rear quarter glass,front bumber and a list which is quite long.What I wish to know is if the body of the australian models are the same as the american of the same time. Which in this case would make it a b series equivalent.The reason being is that then I could get the parts I reqire from the states where they are more readily available.Also any idea where gaskets and engine parts might be available from.
I will upload some photos shortly

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14 years 1 month ago #38545 by
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Murphys,

I get most of my parts for my AB inter from either direct from International (mainly mechanical pits)(amazing what is still available)

Panel work I have been reasonably lucky as far as not needing many bits as most of mine were repairable (sort of :D)! But have had a lot of luck with wreckers etc. But getting lot harder now! Remember Bparo for his AR doing well at swap meets.

As for mechanical parts not covered any more from International. And wishing for better than wreckers! Including able to get a full gasket set for my AGD240! I usually goto Automotive surplus www.autosurplus.com.au/ . They have lots of new old stock. And if they haven't got a item they have an idea of where they might be able to get it!

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14 years 1 month ago #38546 by
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Murphys - There are previous discussions and pics on here that will add to your knowledge. The AA cab is basically the same as the American cabs, but there will be minor differences in trim and accessories, which were locally-sourced by IHC Australia. The AB cab is where changes in design of the Australian models, as compared to the American models, came in.
Always ask for detailed pics/dimensions of the item you're purchasing, to ensure that the item is the same, and will fit.

www.hcvc.com.au/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1270470005

www.hcvc.com.au/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1276815678

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14 years 1 month ago #38547 by
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Forgot to mention that Scotts Old Auto Rubber keeps AA International rubber and trim parts.
However, check his prices against importing the items from eBay sellers in the U.S.

Sometimes there's a big saving to be made on pricey items, by buying them directly off U.S.-based sellers, even though you're up for high postage costs.

www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au/INTERNATI...130-140%20SERIES.htm

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14 years 1 month ago - 14 years 1 month ago #38548 by
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Murphys - You could also join the IH Club of Australia for more contacts and assistance.
Below is a link to one of their newsletters (Jan 2008).

www.ihcaustralia.com/files/january08.pdf

If you scroll down to Page 6 of this newsletter, you'll find articles and pics about the IH Utility trucks, by Lyall Stoodley, an Inter expert.
He speaks of the AS-series appearing with the vertical valve, Black Diamond engine (ABD-220, 240 and 264) .. then the Tilt Valve, Black Diamond engine appearing at the end of the AS-series run, in 1958, just before the AA models.
The Tilt Valve engines were ABD-240, ABD-264 and ABD-282. In the American-built engines, there was an additional BD-308 Tilt Valve engine. The 308 cu in engine version wasn't built in Australia.

In America, the Tilt Valve model appeared a little earlier than in Australia, in mid-1957. The Tilt Valve engines are identified by their much wider head and 6" wide valve cover, as compared to the vertical valve engines.
The precise valve cover dimensions are 6" wide x 4 1/2" high for the Tilt Valve engines, and 5 1/4" wide x 3 3/4" high for the vertical valve engines. These dimensions are from the Felpro Gaskets catalog.

The Tilt Valve design was an effort by IH engineers to cure valve burning problems that the vertical valve engines suffered from, when being pushed hard.

It appears that IH Australia painted the modified Tilt Valve ABD engines blue .. but they still retained the ABD prefix, and they were still known as Black Diamond engines.
It was possibly that, because the new Tilt Valve ABD engines were painted blue, and the prefix read ABD, that many thought they were called a Blue Diamond engine.

However, nowhere is there any IH literature from the AS/AA series, that refers to the ABD-220, 240 or 264 as Blue Diamond engines. This would be because, earlier model engines were called Blue Diamond & Super Blue Diamond engines, and IH wouldn't have wanted confusion over which model someone was ordering parts for.

Unfortunately, the pics of the utes have been transposed in the article .. but anyone with some IH knowledge will soon figure what ute belongs to what article.

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14 years 1 month ago #38549 by acco1840
ONETRACK- I had 2 AS-160's and both had vertical valve ABD-264's and they were both BLUE.
Had an AS120, Blue ABD 220. Had AS-130, was repowered with AGD 264.
Maybe the Black Diamonds were in the AS180's.

Had 3 AA-160, They were all ABD 264 (Blue Diamond).

1971 Butterbox Acco 1840 V8

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