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2 years 6 months ago #235114
by Mrsmackpaul
Well I was searching for something else that I never found but I found this and other stuff instead so thought I best update so people didn't think I was telling porkys
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I'm curious to know more about those legs Mounted in front of the rear Axle..??
Overnite, or Billy do you blokes Know..??
https://www.hcvc.com.au/forum/attachment/26148
Well I was searching for something else that I never found but I found this and other stuff instead so thought I best update so people didn't think I was telling porkys
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2 years 6 months ago #235118
by overnite
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Hayseed, I have no idea, if it was a TOA trailer I would think it might be an futile attempt to stabilise it while tipping, but as it’s a chassis tipper, I’m sorry, I have no idea.
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2 years 6 months ago - 2 years 6 months ago #235121
by Swishy
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WAG
mid 70's axle loading
Steers 5t
Drives 13t Nuther edit (me can't coun) total Gross = 34.5 - tare 14t = payload 20.5t FFS
Spread RSend 16.5
= Total Gross 24.5t
- Tare 14t
Payload = 14.5t ???
to gain maxium loading U needed a long spread BTween Truck and Trailer
WAG the sectioned compartment was to place the load of wet sand to get maximum legal loading
RSend of tailer was on airbags with landing legs as the rear axle would bottom out with full load when tipping
they may have set the legs at a set height to tip load
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also trying tubeless tyres by Michelin
mid 70's axle loading
Steers 5t
Drives 13t Nuther edit (me can't coun) total Gross = 34.5 - tare 14t = payload 20.5t FFS
Spread RSend 16.5
= Total Gross 24.5t
- Tare 14t
Payload = 14.5t ???
to gain maxium loading U needed a long spread BTween Truck and Trailer
WAG the sectioned compartment was to place the load of wet sand to get maximum legal loading
RSend of tailer was on airbags with landing legs as the rear axle would bottom out with full load when tipping
they may have set the legs at a set height to tip load
BIDS2BC
cya
EDIT
also trying tubeless tyres by Michelin
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
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2 years 6 months ago #235123
by Mrsmackpaul
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Swishman is all over this, apparently the rear axle was a self steering axle that wobbled as well
It would of been a very expensive and experimental piece of gear back then and even today
It was a unusual tipper but not the only attempt to get around bridge laws and carry a full load
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It would of been a very expensive and experimental piece of gear back then and even today
It was a unusual tipper but not the only attempt to get around bridge laws and carry a full load
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2 years 6 months ago #235124
by wee-allis
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Can't see it being much of a self steer with the limited distance between the wheel and the leg and the wheel and the mud lap. Just my thoughts and what would I know.
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2 years 6 months ago #235125
by Mrsmackpaul
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I would agree wee allis, however a fella on Facelessbook has stated numerous times that they had a steerable axle, I cant see that been the case but as everyone knows I dont know two tenths of stuff all
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2 years 6 months ago #235126
by Mrsmackpaul
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If I zoom in on the pictures I can't see any way it could be a steerable axle
There just isnt emough room and I doubt the wheels would fit under the chassis rails either so it would be extremely limited
I cant see anything in the picture to suggest it would be steerable at all
And if it was the mud flaps and the rear of the chassis and the lights etc would rub as there isnt much room there at all
Just saying, I seem to recall on the photo showing it tipping it is stated the legs are there to make it stable when tipping
Now that makes perfect sense to me
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There just isnt emough room and I doubt the wheels would fit under the chassis rails either so it would be extremely limited
I cant see anything in the picture to suggest it would be steerable at all
And if it was the mud flaps and the rear of the chassis and the lights etc would rub as there isnt much room there at all
Just saying, I seem to recall on the photo showing it tipping it is stated the legs are there to make it stable when tipping
Now that makes perfect sense to me
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2 years 6 months ago #235129
by wee-allis
Replied by wee-allis on topic Extended Tipper Trailer
Nah, the legs are there so you can wind them down, lift the trailer to change a tyre without having to get under and jack it up. Just kidding,
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2 years 6 months ago #235139
by overnite
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I can’t see that it would matter if it had airbags or not. It’s a chassis tipper all wheels stay on the ground when tipping. If it was a TOA it would make more sense, but its not.
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2 years 6 months ago #235147
by hayseed
The couple of Steerable Trailer axles I've had anything to do with had very Limited Travel. (At a Guess 10-15 Degrees) as the Inside Tyre Hits the Bottom Flange of the Trailer Beam..
I agree, Those Legs would be a Complete & Utter waste of Time..
I've operated T.O.A. Air bag equipped Tippers with 3 Compartments for Stockfeed without any Dramas..
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Replied by hayseed on topic Extended Tipper Trailer
Can't see it being much of a self steer with the limited distance between the wheel and the leg and the wheel and the mud lap. Just my thoughts and what would I know.
The couple of Steerable Trailer axles I've had anything to do with had very Limited Travel. (At a Guess 10-15 Degrees) as the Inside Tyre Hits the Bottom Flange of the Trailer Beam..
I can’t see that it would matter if it had airbags or not. It’s a chassis tipper all wheels stay on the ground when tipping. If it was a TOA it would make more sense, but its not.
I agree, Those Legs would be a Complete & Utter waste of Time..
I've operated T.O.A. Air bag equipped Tippers with 3 Compartments for Stockfeed without any Dramas..
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Because those that matter...
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