RE:There is nothing to fear but fear itself" (Please note I attributed the quote)
Hay
Eye think I've read th@ somewhere else

Mighta been
Noddy & BigEars

LOL

(Whoopz Sorry to make fun on a series subject)

cya

I see your point Lang, but the cost of defense, even if exonerated, can break the average person.
The forum with which I am involved is privately owned (but not for profit), not operated by a club.
There is a club within, but less than 0.1% are members.

All OK A man has gotta do.......................... etc

I have made my thoughts known but I will be guided by Terry, Hayseed and the others. No sense making waves on a "point of order".

Lang

when you think you've seen and heard it all ...

Now here we have a public forum (inferring all material deemed to be in the public domain) to where public domain material (from public forums) is to be restricted.

whale oil beef ocked!

Eddy wrote:

when you think you've seen and heard it all ...

Now here we have a public forum (inferring all material deemed to be in the public domain) to where public domain material (from public forums) is to be restricted.

whale oil beef ocked!

Yes the world has officially gone mad

Paul

While the risk is low, it's still there.
If those who want to post, sign up as an administrator and own the risk.

Website administrators are now considered publishers and are responsible for their sites. They're putting themselves out there and I think, if they request something as simple as included the source then why not?

Why give them the grief? I'm guessing they were very uncomfortable even making the request (and the blow back shows why.)

If "you're" not wanting to include the details, then maybe reach an agreement to underwrite any actions brought forward.... How does the saying go, money where your mouth is.

Am an admin on two faecesbook pages, Moderator on two forums, Admin on one forum, and own two forums.

On no (publicly accessible) Forum template is there any inclusion, or any opportunity to apply, any form of copyright or exclusivity to any content.
in general, most authors on any forum tend to be quite pleased when their stuff is shared on other forums.


... so ... Yes jon_d ... my money and my mouth are together.

I doubt that the average punter would object to another, repeating the information posted. But consider if someone from this forum, spent many hours researching the history of a particular subject, only to have someone else repost it elsewhere, as their own work. I'd be a bit miffed.
Serious consequences can arise if a poster cut and pastes content from articles from behind paywalls.

I have spent the last two hours trawling information, legal web sites, court reports, hearsay comments on numerous forums, Forum Administration Management government advice information and advice articles from Copyright Lawyers in Australia, USA and UK and can find not a single case of a public forum, administrator or poster being sued for copyright infringement.

In the USA by regulation you can not be sued if you provide a contact means on your site for the copyright owner to complain and remove such material as soon as requested. This does not protect those stealing stuff for commercial purposes.

I can find several cases of commercial sites and individual business sites posting, claiming ownership or otherwise profiting from misuse of copyright material. All were for commercial purposes to mislead or create an income from someone else's work.

The only chance of trouble for an Administrator/Owner/Poster on an open non-commercial forum like this one is for libel or slander (naming-and-shaming, false reputation claims or other personal attack, misleading information designed to part people from their money or damaging advice such as pseudo medical diagnosis). None of this applies to our well controlled situation. There have been some very high profile cases where well known people have both won and lost big money payouts for personal attacks.

The recent changes to the rules making sites and managers liable for posts is aimed at curbing uncontrolled libel, slander and personal attack or a reputational or political campaign and the copyright question is only collateral damage and not the intention of the law.

This just reinforces my opinion that regarding copyright infringements there is about zero chance of legal action (lawyers nasty letters) let alone any form of payout judgement. It would be interesting to know how many copyright complaints have arisen in the tens of thousands of posts that have been through this forum or if anyone has documented evidence of a copyright complaint resulting in actual court action for the hundreds of millions of posts on other similar community forums.

I won't make any more comment.

V8Ian wrote:

I doubt that the average punter would object to another, repeating the information posted. But consider if someone from this forum, spent many hours researching the history of a particular subject, only to have someone else repost it elsewhere, as their own work. I'd be a bit miffed.
Serious consequences can arise if a poster cut and pastes content from articles from behind paywalls.

I'm Pretty sure Werkhorse can attest to this......... Some of His very early TNT work ended up all over the internet/social Media un-attributed or credited to someone else...........