Electric vehicles and alternate fuel sources

Solar system is in and going, been running three days and every day, we have made 3 times the power that we use, with better than 50 percent cloud cover, which is a fair bit bet better than I expected, being an electrician, you see the figures, and, in your head, you sort of go nar can't be that good there got a be a few losses, Well it is that good and I am a bit surprised. So now it's grab a couple of battery's, a couple of little wind turbines and Chain saw the power poles, well maybe I better not the people up the line may not be that happy, I do not know what sort of busted arse system the mobs' who come and put your system in, in a day give you I have been working two or three days a week since the end of August on mine, though I have to admit it's probably a bit over the top.

Little known is that if the grid fails, the battery cannot be used, it needs an external power supply to be usable. 

V8Ian wrote:

Little known is that if the grid fails, the battery cannot be used, it needs an external power supply to be usable. 

Not all systems. Some have an automatic disconnect from the grid and then run on the batteries. The one I have installed has that capability and actually switches off the grid at 4.00pm. Now just to save for the batteries.

 

Alan, maybe on the early and cheaper ones but definitely not the ones I have, and definitely not on the half a dozen systems around my area that have been up and running for a while around me, but I guess you get what you pay for, the panels I have are guaranteed to produce at 92 percent at 25 years. The people around me tell me that you don't even notice when there is a blackout. In my case sheds and pumps will be out, house will be powered on current usage for about 3 days. There is a big difference between an electrician putting a system together over 6 months and a system where somebody knocks on your door and then chucks half a dozen panels on your roof.

Here we have the 1912 Baker Electric Car fitted with a solar panel (20 miles range) in 1960. The experimental solar panel was provided by a NASA contractor for close the modern day cost of $300,000.

That's pretty good for what it is

Paul

See in the news ...Hundreds of Sydney electric busses being charged by diesel generators ...........its only temporary ,says the premier .............. for the next 20 years,that is.

Last night I watched Channel 7's Spotlight program. The episode was on "dirty" Nickel being processed in Chinese owned refineries in Indonesia, for use in the batteries of electric cars.

Whistle blowers said that every day there were eight or ten accidents involving serious injury or death of Indonesian workers.
They showed footage of Indonesian workers cutting into a furnace, not knowing there was molten nickel inside. The workers were killed. The Chinese supervisors at the scene were said to have very little knowledge of the Indonesian language and were poorly prepared to respond to the disaster.
Other footage showed a worker being knocked off a stairway by a swiveling excavator. The worker is said to have suffered serious back injuries and is fighting to have the Company arrange medical treatment for him.
Workers have been found to have illnesses caused by extremely high levels of mercury and other toxic chemicals in their blood. 

The Indonesian Government has declared the toxic waste from the refining process to be safe and allows the plant operators to bulldoze it into the sea, thereby ruining the fishing industry and making employment at the nickel refineries the only employment in the area.

Thousands of acres of forest are being destroyed to give access to more Nickel ore. This is destroying the habitat and food sources of the primitive Hongano-Monyana (spelling?) people.

Coal powered electricity generating plants, five in operation and seven more under construction are pumping pollution into the air.

This cheaper "dirty" Nickel has destroyed the huge Australian Nickel producing industry and caused the loss of at least seven thousand jobs of Australian workers, and all to get cheaper nickel for so-called "Green" electric vehicles.

Its the Chinese manufacturer who has the say about components in products .......We make nothing here ,so we can have no input........A while back the Govt spent millions setting up engineering capacity to make the steel towers for the windgenerators ...........the Chinese simply said , generators made in China ,towers made in China.

All fixed.

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He was talking off the top of his head in answer to a question. 10 minutes later he would have realised how stupid it was. We all make mistakes.

But undeterred we have a solar battery rebate (paid for by you and me)

This is from Solar Choice who are in the business of selling solar to Australian consumers. At least they are honest. This is just for home use without the huge extra capacity required for Albo's overnight car  scenario.

Based on our numerous analyses of scenarios over the years, we are yet to see a case to install a residential battery with an attractive financial return.The payback period for a solar battery is usually longer than the warrantied life of the battery, even after factoring in additional benefits from participating in a Virtual Power Plant scheme. In the typical scenario above the battery takes 12 years to pay for itself and most batteries have a 10 year product warranty.So installing a solar battery is generally only worth it if homeowners place some value on blackout protection and reducing carbon emissions.Previously  Solar Choice has estimated  that residential solar battery prices would need to fall to $200-$300 per kWh of battery capacity installed to provide an attractive return, while the current market price is closer to $1,000 per kWh.