Chasing another ID
3 years 8 months ago - 3 years 8 months ago #213206
by Lang
Replied by Lang on topic Chasing another ID
On that really early RR at the show, those look like they are actually wood wheels not steel. The whole wheel is wood (the round bit is called a felloe which we have all seen on horse carts with a steel rim shrunk on as a tyre. Cars had steel rims shaped to hold a rubber tyre attached to the wood felloe. This is a very early wheel construction but seemed to work OK
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3 years 8 months ago #213213
by Morris
I have my shoulder to the wheel,
my nose to the grindstone,
I've put my best foot forward,
I've put my back into it,
I'm gritting my teeth,
Now I find I can't do any work in this position!
Replied by Morris on topic Chasing another ID
MrsMackPaul, Your advert shows that I was right years ago and a mate at the time,. one of those people who knows everything (so they think) was wrong. I said Sankeys were made in two halves and welded together but he convinced me that they were cast as one piece in steel. He was wrong.
They were made in several types, the very early type with flanges to take beaded edge wheels. I think the one in the ad you showed was one of those with the three threaded rods with wingnuts holding the tube and tyre to the wheel.
Another type for "straight sided" tyres, similar to car tyres these days.
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Those that had a groove around the edge to take a locking ring, similar but smaller in profile, to modern truck wheels.
I have several Sankeys, both 20 inch and 23 inch, of the type that take the locking ring.
All except the locking ring type were complete and took the tyre straight onto the wheel with no other parts.
They were made in several types, the very early type with flanges to take beaded edge wheels. I think the one in the ad you showed was one of those with the three threaded rods with wingnuts holding the tube and tyre to the wheel.
Another type for "straight sided" tyres, similar to car tyres these days.
and
Those that had a groove around the edge to take a locking ring, similar but smaller in profile, to modern truck wheels.
I have several Sankeys, both 20 inch and 23 inch, of the type that take the locking ring.
All except the locking ring type were complete and took the tyre straight onto the wheel with no other parts.
I have my shoulder to the wheel,
my nose to the grindstone,
I've put my best foot forward,
I've put my back into it,
I'm gritting my teeth,
Now I find I can't do any work in this position!
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3 years 8 months ago #213225
by JOHN.K.
Replied by JOHN.K. on topic Chasing another ID
Langs comment is on the 1910 Silver Ghost in the GB Rally......Ive got a 1914 book with an ad for Sankey steel wheels ,so quite early ......The RR in the first pic,has the detachable locking ring type wheels ,so it also has "wired bead" type tyres ,not the earlier "beaded edge "or "clincher" in US terminilogy .....For those unfamiliar ,the bead edge was held into the rim only by air pressure,which was generally around 100psi for a car .They were also called "high pressure" tyres,,when the wired type came out in the mid 20s,they were known as "low pressure tyres".
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3 years 7 months ago #214559
by John D
Replied by John D on topic Chasing another ID
Bit late to the party, could the vehicle be a Manchester light truck
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3 years 7 months ago #214561
by 77louie400
Replied by 77louie400 on topic Chasing another ID
A bit late as well, under a big gum tree up at mums is the remains of a Hudson straight 8 hearse the guards running boards and lower tin work up to floor level are the same, I have not had a look at it for a while but the front cowl looks familiar, dad use it to move pea bags off the farm to the road side stand for pick up before he got his licence and his own Morris truck, so mid 1940's, carn't comment on the wheels as they were given to a mobile saw miller that cut timber at home who had a Hudson 8 that they would take a back wheel of and replace it with a pulley to drive the saw bench, as a side note my brother has restored the Morris and would of had it at Dubbo this year had it not been for the CVO thingie
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