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Getting this 86' 6 cyl Trader work ready
4 months 16 hours ago #260184
by JOHN.K.
Replied by JOHN.K. on topic Getting this 86' 6 cyl Trader work ready
In the 4 cyl Mazdas the thinwall liners were hand pull and install......quite amazing quality for a cheap truck .
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4 months 12 hours ago #260193
by Mrsmackpaul
Your better to die trying than live on your knees begging
Replied by Mrsmackpaul on topic Getting this 86' 6 cyl Trader work ready
Many years ago, way back in the 80's when I was a younger lad fixing lifts (elevators for Brocky)
Bare with me here
Occasionally we had to change a bearing on a gearless hoist motor
These are a really tight press fit the factory
We would cut the outer shell with a grinder and then split it
Then pry all the rollers out and pull the cage off
There is a point to the story
We then cut through the inner bearing case and would split that off
At a guess the bearings were over 12 inches OD, thinking closer to 14 inches
The ID was maybe 7 inches
We then would get a cheap foam esky (cooler for Brocky) and cut the end out to fit over the hoist motor shaft and silicon the esky on
We would prop the esky up on blocks of wood and fill with liquid nitrogen
It shrunk the shaft a huge amount
After maybe half a hour, we would just smash the esky off and quickly slip the big bearing
So now that waffle is done, not knowing exactly were you are, most vets or herd improvement companies have plenty of liquid nitrogen on hand
So maybe just get some from them and really shrink the liners and maybe just push them in by hand with a glove on
Paul
Bare with me here
Occasionally we had to change a bearing on a gearless hoist motor
These are a really tight press fit the factory
We would cut the outer shell with a grinder and then split it
Then pry all the rollers out and pull the cage off
There is a point to the story
We then cut through the inner bearing case and would split that off
At a guess the bearings were over 12 inches OD, thinking closer to 14 inches
The ID was maybe 7 inches
We then would get a cheap foam esky (cooler for Brocky) and cut the end out to fit over the hoist motor shaft and silicon the esky on
We would prop the esky up on blocks of wood and fill with liquid nitrogen
It shrunk the shaft a huge amount
After maybe half a hour, we would just smash the esky off and quickly slip the big bearing
So now that waffle is done, not knowing exactly were you are, most vets or herd improvement companies have plenty of liquid nitrogen on hand
So maybe just get some from them and really shrink the liners and maybe just push them in by hand with a glove on
Paul
Your better to die trying than live on your knees begging
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4 months 11 hours ago - 4 months 11 hours ago #260194
by jon_d
When I did mine, I'm wasn't sure how easy it is to source/use and then how quickly it boils off as you do the six liners.
Hence I tried dry ice first. 3kgs of dry ice (-76*C) is about $70 from memory. available at CIG and places.
Replied by jon_d on topic Getting this 86' 6 cyl Trader work ready
Yep, that's the best way. The videos I saw more or less had them dropping in.So maybe just get some from them and really shrink the liners and maybe just push them in by hand with a glove on
When I did mine, I'm wasn't sure how easy it is to source/use and then how quickly it boils off as you do the six liners.
Hence I tried dry ice first. 3kgs of dry ice (-76*C) is about $70 from memory. available at CIG and places.
Last edit: 4 months 11 hours ago by jon_d.
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3 months 3 weeks ago #260204
by roKWiz
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Replied by roKWiz on topic Getting this 86' 6 cyl Trader work ready
I figure if I can do them in the Kenworth's VT903 I reckon this engine should be OK. I'll take everyone advice using the dry ice.
The 903 was like rebuilding a giant version of a 350 Chevy. Getting the heads on and off was the hardest bit due to the blocks surface angle but pistons and liners slipped in by hand.
The 903 was like rebuilding a giant version of a 350 Chevy. Getting the heads on and off was the hardest bit due to the blocks surface angle but pistons and liners slipped in by hand.
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3 months 3 weeks ago #260206
by JOHN.K.
Replied by JOHN.K. on topic Getting this 86' 6 cyl Trader work ready
The rear engine busses were the same ...the sloped block would dislodge the seal rings ..........one time I had a 6/92 head fall right out of the bus and onto the dirt .........I gave it a sweep with a straw broom ,and stuck it back on the engine ......... a guy was watching me ,he didnt say a word.
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3 months 3 weeks ago #260234
by roKWiz
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Looks like I have to wait now until I return to Victoria to grab the pistons and liners I need.
The place I was looking to buy a rebuild kit from, who advertise them is just a BS parts suppliers now and known for abusing everyone that makes simple enquiries with them. You should read the reviews on google. (wish I had done so first) Not naming them but they have a place in Craftsman Ave Berkeley Vale NSW. I wrote an honest review just to see what he would say and sure enough boom.
Nothing has changed here as years ago when I lived on the Central Coast and these guys were at North Gosford they were so hard to deal with.
SMS diesel, Lidcombe, I used to deal with has given away stocking these earlier Trader parts now but still are great company to deal with for other Japanese truck parts.
ABC diesel (Asquith) were squeezed out of Sydney moved up to mid north coast to Coba country, Nabiac.
The place I was looking to buy a rebuild kit from, who advertise them is just a BS parts suppliers now and known for abusing everyone that makes simple enquiries with them. You should read the reviews on google. (wish I had done so first) Not naming them but they have a place in Craftsman Ave Berkeley Vale NSW. I wrote an honest review just to see what he would say and sure enough boom.
Nothing has changed here as years ago when I lived on the Central Coast and these guys were at North Gosford they were so hard to deal with.
SMS diesel, Lidcombe, I used to deal with has given away stocking these earlier Trader parts now but still are great company to deal with for other Japanese truck parts.
ABC diesel (Asquith) were squeezed out of Sydney moved up to mid north coast to Coba country, Nabiac.
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3 months 3 weeks ago #260238
by cobbadog
Cheers Cobba & Cobbarette
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Working on more play time.
Replied by cobbadog on topic Getting this 86' 6 cyl Trader work ready
I use to use Brett's in that general area for all of the parts I needed for Lorry the Hino.
Hopefully it's not them but I don't need to know as we no longer have Lorry.
Hopefully it's not them but I don't need to know as we no longer have Lorry.
Cheers Cobba & Cobbarette
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Working on more play time.
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3 months 3 weeks ago #260243
by mammoth
Replied by mammoth on topic Getting this 86' 6 cyl Trader work ready
Power Brakes
www.powerbrakes.com.au/
in Sth Aus is your one stop shop for odd ball and oldie brake parts.
in Sth Aus is your one stop shop for odd ball and oldie brake parts.
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3 months 3 weeks ago #260263
by roKWiz
Brakes / clutch are sorted need some pistons/rings, liners and gasket set which I'll sort out back in Victoria.
Just hate dealing with companies that tell you they have all the parts on their website but really don't have them at all.
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In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come... D. Did
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Power Brakes www.powerbrakes.com.au/
in Sth Aus is your one stop shop for odd ball and oldie brake parts.
Brakes / clutch are sorted need some pistons/rings, liners and gasket set which I'll sort out back in Victoria.
Just hate dealing with companies that tell you they have all the parts on their website but really don't have them at all.
Heritage Stonemason
In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come... D. Did
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3 months 3 weeks ago #260265
by jon_d
Replied by jon_d on topic Getting this 86' 6 cyl Trader work ready
or send you different branded oil filters to what you bought. Or supply rocker cover gaskets that don't fit and leak.
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