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4 months 4 weeks ago #252275
by V8Ian
Replied by V8Ian on topic Tram Transporter
Thanks Terry, from your link, "Waggon was preferred in British English until a century ago,
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and it still appears occasionally, but it is fast becoming archaic."
Seems to describe me fairly accurately.
Seems to describe me fairly accurately.
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4 months 4 weeks ago #252276
by Zuffen
Replied by Zuffen on topic Tram Transporter
In the first photo I noticed the driver has his offsider to the right of him.
I wonder what a Copper would say if you did that today?
I wonder what a Copper would say if you did that today?
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4 months 4 weeks ago - 4 months 4 weeks ago #252282
by Morris
I have my shoulder to the wheel,
my nose to the grindstone,
I've put my best foot forward,
I've put my back into it,
I'm gritting my teeth,
Now I find I can't do any work in this position!
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V8Ian
Me too.
Zuffen
There is also a man in uniform apparently standing on the passenger side step and clinging to the door handle? and the sidelight mounting. These suggest to me that the two passengers are there for only for a short distance. The car in the other lane appears to be from the1930s or 1940s but I suppose the truck would not get much use if it was only carrying trams over the bridge.
Me too.
Zuffen
There is also a man in uniform apparently standing on the passenger side step and clinging to the door handle? and the sidelight mounting. These suggest to me that the two passengers are there for only for a short distance. The car in the other lane appears to be from the1930s or 1940s but I suppose the truck would not get much use if it was only carrying trams over the bridge.
I have my shoulder to the wheel,
my nose to the grindstone,
I've put my best foot forward,
I've put my back into it,
I'm gritting my teeth,
Now I find I can't do any work in this position!
Last edit: 4 months 4 weeks ago by Morris. Reason: To replace several words that the computer lost.
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4 months 3 weeks ago #252291
by Zuffen
Replied by Zuffen on topic Tram Transporter
The Bridge was built with Tram lines on the Eastern side.
This was from day one.
The trams crossed the roadway and the approach is still in place after the tramway was removed in the 1960/70's.
Could the photo's be from elsewhere, like Spit Bridge?
This was from day one.
The trams crossed the roadway and the approach is still in place after the tramway was removed in the 1960/70's.
Could the photo's be from elsewhere, like Spit Bridge?
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4 months 3 weeks ago #252300
by cobbadog
Cheers Cobba & Cobbarette
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Replied by cobbadog on topic Tram Transporter
There was a note that the pic was Sydney Harbour Bridge also noted the old toll booths. Don't think many other bridges had tolls back then. Pic source was the Library in Sydney.
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4 months 3 weeks ago #252303
by Roderick Smith
Replied by Roderick Smith on topic Tram Transporter
The Middle Harbour crossing used a tram-only ferry: drive-on/off, much more convenient than using the lizard trailer.
Most Murray River bridges were tolled, but probably not by the 1930s.
Brisbane River at Indooroopilly was toll (until when?); AFAIK Hornibrook Hwy (Qld) was too, and Phillip Island (Vic.).
Sydney Harbour Bridge was designed for two pairs of railway tracks. The northern pair was for the planned northern beaches line. The use by trams was 'temporary'. At Wynyard, trams used a platform built for trains, with the tracks elevated on pigsty packing. The railway was never built. The idea has been revived, now that there is a tunnel supplementing the bridge, but is highly unlikely to eventuate in the form envisaged in the 1930s.
From Clark 'North of the harbour': A Dyson tram-carrying trailer was used, with a detachable ramp was introduced in 1937. The Ultimo Karrier and Randwick Thornycroft were used to tow it; the Randwick AEC towed the ramp. The trailer was used for the isolated Enfield system too. The northern system was closed in 1958. I suspect that a larger prime mover had been introduced before then.
tdu.to/i/11620
tdu.to/i/56675
tdu.to/i/56676
tdu.to/i/67282 showing all three 1930s trucks.
Most Murray River bridges were tolled, but probably not by the 1930s.
Brisbane River at Indooroopilly was toll (until when?); AFAIK Hornibrook Hwy (Qld) was too, and Phillip Island (Vic.).
Sydney Harbour Bridge was designed for two pairs of railway tracks. The northern pair was for the planned northern beaches line. The use by trams was 'temporary'. At Wynyard, trams used a platform built for trains, with the tracks elevated on pigsty packing. The railway was never built. The idea has been revived, now that there is a tunnel supplementing the bridge, but is highly unlikely to eventuate in the form envisaged in the 1930s.
From Clark 'North of the harbour': A Dyson tram-carrying trailer was used, with a detachable ramp was introduced in 1937. The Ultimo Karrier and Randwick Thornycroft were used to tow it; the Randwick AEC towed the ramp. The trailer was used for the isolated Enfield system too. The northern system was closed in 1958. I suspect that a larger prime mover had been introduced before then.
tdu.to/i/11620
tdu.to/i/56675
tdu.to/i/56676
tdu.to/i/67282 showing all three 1930s trucks.
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4 months 3 weeks ago #252304
by V8Ian
Replied by V8Ian on topic Tram Transporter
The Walter Taylor bridge at Indooroopilly was tolled until the late '60s, the Hornibrook Highway bridge had its toll lifted in the early '70s.
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