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Hino emission and consumption figures have been manipulated
2 years 1 month ago #232788
by hayseed
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HINO isn't the First to be caught out by something like This Nor will they be the last..
www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1998-...810230110-story.html
www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1998-...810230110-story.html
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2 years 1 month ago #232791
by Mrsmackpaul
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On the Mack truck forum a while ago the Mack Anthems in America were getting nearly 11 MPG at their very best
9.5 MPG was achievable almost all the time
The key to it was revs which I guess falls into line with what Lang was mentioning about fuel economy trials
These Macks were doing 70 MPH at 1350 revs I think it was
Big torque mptors just ideling along
I'll have a hunt and see if I can find the link, I'll ever find and find out my memory is shot or not find it and blokes will think I'm full of crap lol
Paul
9.5 MPG was achievable almost all the time
The key to it was revs which I guess falls into line with what Lang was mentioning about fuel economy trials
These Macks were doing 70 MPH at 1350 revs I think it was
Big torque mptors just ideling along
I'll have a hunt and see if I can find the link, I'll ever find and find out my memory is shot or not find it and blokes will think I'm full of crap lol
Paul
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2 years 1 month ago #232792
by Mrsmackpaul
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Found the thread on the forum but the Facebook page is now private so you aint gunna see nothing there but it was 9 MPG heading towards 10 MPG
Still very amazing, and these are or were owner drivers, I think they may have down loaded the trucks computer data each day or something along those lines so as they couldn't fudge the figures
www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57614-9-mpg-macks/
Paul
Still very amazing, and these are or were owner drivers, I think they may have down loaded the trucks computer data each day or something along those lines so as they couldn't fudge the figures
www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/57614-9-mpg-macks/
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2 years 1 month ago #232807
by hayseed
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Sounds good Paul, But remember,;Yanky gallons are smaller than real Gallons, Their Weights are a heap lighter than Ours (Max 36.3Tonne) Plus you also need to factor In Adblue usage & cost...!!
I doubt We'd get close to those Figures here In Australia...
I doubt We'd get close to those Figures here In Australia...
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2 years 1 month ago #232809
by Mrsmackpaul
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Everthing you saying is correct seed
9 MPG U.S. = 26.1 litres per 100 km
9 MPG imperial = 31.39 liters per 100km
10.5 MPG imperial = 26.9 litres per 100km
Also I understand 70 MPH is the normal speed limit in the U.S. for semi trailers, Brocky might be able to confirm this
Their trailers are 50 feet or longer
Even including our extra weight etc the figures they get are astounding
It shows we have a huge amount of room for improvement
Speed and the way we drive makes a big difference in Australia, I was watching a fella that has subbies work for him in the U.S. and just by reducing down time and driving better the subbies could make $2500.00 extra per month just by fuel savings alone let alone extra wear and tare
Nothing much to be gained by all of this but it is interesting to me
Sorry I have no idea about adblue costs as I have never needed any
Paul
9 MPG U.S. = 26.1 litres per 100 km
9 MPG imperial = 31.39 liters per 100km
10.5 MPG imperial = 26.9 litres per 100km
Also I understand 70 MPH is the normal speed limit in the U.S. for semi trailers, Brocky might be able to confirm this
Their trailers are 50 feet or longer
Even including our extra weight etc the figures they get are astounding
It shows we have a huge amount of room for improvement
Speed and the way we drive makes a big difference in Australia, I was watching a fella that has subbies work for him in the U.S. and just by reducing down time and driving better the subbies could make $2500.00 extra per month just by fuel savings alone let alone extra wear and tare
Nothing much to be gained by all of this but it is interesting to me
Sorry I have no idea about adblue costs as I have never needed any
Paul
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2 years 1 month ago #232814
by JOHN.K.
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In some 1982 truck engine tests,the most fuel efficient truck engines were Mack ,Scania,and the Silver 6V92 TTA.............and the least efficient was the GM6V53 and 4/53 which used 25% more fuel per kw/hr over the most efficient.
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2 years 1 month ago #232822
by Mrsmackpaul
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Interesting engine results, another reason for me not to like t he 53 series GM
Still I guess compared to a big petrol the fuel economy was good
Was doing some research on the Mack Anthems
Diff ratios of 2.16 and 2.3 are common
Super single type tyres on the drives
Lazy axle instead of bogie drive
As close coupled as possible between trailer and prime mover
Paul
Still I guess compared to a big petrol the fuel economy was good
Was doing some research on the Mack Anthems
Diff ratios of 2.16 and 2.3 are common
Super single type tyres on the drives
Lazy axle instead of bogie drive
As close coupled as possible between trailer and prime mover
Paul
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