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14 years 2 months ago #21373
by kennymopar2
Armstrong holland was created by kennymopar2
i thought this company just made winches etc .. anyone know much about them?
cgi.ebay.com.au/OLD-DOZER-ARMSTRONG-HOLL...10QQcmdZViewItemQQpt
cgi.ebay.com.au/OLD-DOZER-ARMSTRONG-HOLL...10QQcmdZViewItemQQpt
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14 years 2 months ago #21374
by Swishy
KenMoPa
Gudday M8
Armstrong holland made lotsa bits for earthmoving machinery
Blades, Rippers n may B scrapers n Graders
RE: Your Ebay Link
For auction is an old dozer, was going when parked 10 years ago, hasn't been tested since, sold as is, has no blade and roof is rusty, it is possibly international td18, not sure, it weighs between 12-14 tonne, so starting price is scrap price, if not sold it will be scrapped, it is located at casino nsw.
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KenMoPa
Gudday M8
Armstrong holland made lotsa bits for earthmoving machinery
Blades, Rippers n may B scrapers n Graders
RE: Your Ebay Link
For auction is an old dozer, was going when parked 10 years ago, hasn't been tested since, sold as is, has no blade and roof is rusty, it is possibly international td18, not sure, it weighs between 12-14 tonne, so starting price is scrap price, if not sold it will be scrapped, it is located at casino nsw.
Cya
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OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
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14 years 2 months ago #21375
by cribotow
Replied by cribotow on topic Re: Armstrong holland
nice lookin jigger get that goin in no time,now if Swish can just pick it up when up that way and just drop it anywhere in my front yard that be fine,i leave a slab on the veranda
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14 years 2 months ago #21376
by Swishy
Cripotow
GuddayM8
RE: casino nsw.
It aint on my Melway Street Directory n also need a cut lunch
So = N0 Go
U'd also need to pass a lot of pubs, Between here n there! so there!
LOL
RE: leave a slab on the veranda
No good unless U got fridge on verandah
LOL
Cya
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Cripotow
GuddayM8
RE: casino nsw.
It aint on my Melway Street Directory n also need a cut lunch
So = N0 Go
U'd also need to pass a lot of pubs, Between here n there! so there!
LOL
RE: leave a slab on the veranda
No good unless U got fridge on verandah
LOL
Cya
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14 years 2 months ago - 14 years 2 months ago #21377
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Armstrong-Holland Ltd., were an engineering company based in Sydney, that built a wide range of road-building equipment and attachments. They had an associated business known as Champion Construction Machinery (later changed to Champion Road Machinery, I believe), under which many of the A-H products were sold.
They built power control units (cable controls) .. road graders, both pull-type and tractor-based motor graders (maintainers) .. road rollers .. bitumen plants .. dozer blades .. concrete mixing equipment .. and even various trailers and low-loaders, from memory.
The company kept a low profile, and little remains of their records, or pictures of products, or even the factory. Like many Australian manufacturing engineering businesses, they often built items under licence from U.S. and British manufacturers.
For example, the A-H bitumen plants were built under licence to the American Etnyre Co.
I seem to recall I have an Armstrong-Holland parts manual for a crawler tractor overloader model. I am pretty sure this is a licence-built, American Athey overloader.
However, the A-H concrete mixers, and concrete plants, were advertised as "fully Australian designed and built".
A-H were in operation from the early 1920's to the 1980's, after initially commencing business as British Australian Machinery Co.
In the early days (as BAMCO, and possibly from around before WW1) they had agencies for a number of imported road machinery, steam, horse-drawn, and tractor products. Most of the early items were British based, but it appears from about the mid-1920's, American items of road-making equipment gained favour with A-H.
From the SMH, Apr 13, 1922 ..
THE BRITISH-AUSTRALIAN MACHINERY COMPANY.
Under the abbreviated title of "Bamco," the British-Australian Machinery Company, Ltd., is showing a most comprehensive assortment of all types of road-making and other machinery of importance to local governing bodies.
These include the Big Champion, Little Champion, and Baby Champion steel reversible road grading machines, having respectively 8ft, 6ft, and 5ft blades; Champion power batch concrete mixer, mounted on portable carriage, and complete with mixer with a capacity of from six to seven cubic yards per hour; also a hand-power batch concrete mixer, on wheels, with patent loading hopper, with a capacity per batch of four cubic foot. There are also road rollers of all types, Ajax portable chemical fire extinguishers, in sizes of from one to fifty gallons; Thistle marine oil engines; Skandia crude oil engine; loading hoppers, scoops, and an infinite variety of other articles.
Early ads indicate rock-crushing machines, elevators and conveyors, horsedrawn road rollers, waggons, drag & wheeled scoops, concrete carts & barrows, and road plows were all part of the line-up of products, after the name change, to Armstrong-Holland Ltd, which appears to be about late 1922 or early 1923.
"Leyland heavy-duty type, metal wagons", and a range of builder hoists and machinery, were also listed as products in 1923.
In the SMH of 1930, there is a couple of paragraphs about a display of A-H road machinery products, including the Bates Steel Mule tractor, at the Sydney Royal Easter Show.
A-H tied up with International to a large degree, and built a lot of IHC tractor attachments in the 40's, 50's and 60's, when imported attachments incurred heavy tariffs. In 1937/38, newspaper ads state that A-H had the agency for McCormick-Deering diesel tractors.
The Armstrong-Holland Bulldog Speed Patrol of 1937, (tractor grader maintainer) was powered by a McCormick-Deering diesel.
I have never seen an Armstrong-Holland catalog of any kind, nor any history of the company written up anywhere. They have just vanished into the mists of time, and have left little for us, except those great name tags on a wide range of items.
SMH - Apr. 18, 1930 .. news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1301&dat=...IBAJ&pg=2371,1571345
SMH - Apr. 4, 1928 .. news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1301&dat=...IBAJ&pg=7176,5700699
SMH - Apr 6, 1926 .. newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16...hinery#pstart1216276
Here's a bloke who went to all the trouble of restoring a 1930 A-H road roller that's powered by a single cylinder Ronaldson Tippett.
Talk about dedicated .. I mean to say, a straddle truck is oddball enough, but who bothers to restore old road rollers?? ..
www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail...ArticleID=10420&vf=1
They built power control units (cable controls) .. road graders, both pull-type and tractor-based motor graders (maintainers) .. road rollers .. bitumen plants .. dozer blades .. concrete mixing equipment .. and even various trailers and low-loaders, from memory.
The company kept a low profile, and little remains of their records, or pictures of products, or even the factory. Like many Australian manufacturing engineering businesses, they often built items under licence from U.S. and British manufacturers.
For example, the A-H bitumen plants were built under licence to the American Etnyre Co.
I seem to recall I have an Armstrong-Holland parts manual for a crawler tractor overloader model. I am pretty sure this is a licence-built, American Athey overloader.
However, the A-H concrete mixers, and concrete plants, were advertised as "fully Australian designed and built".
A-H were in operation from the early 1920's to the 1980's, after initially commencing business as British Australian Machinery Co.
In the early days (as BAMCO, and possibly from around before WW1) they had agencies for a number of imported road machinery, steam, horse-drawn, and tractor products. Most of the early items were British based, but it appears from about the mid-1920's, American items of road-making equipment gained favour with A-H.
From the SMH, Apr 13, 1922 ..
THE BRITISH-AUSTRALIAN MACHINERY COMPANY.
Under the abbreviated title of "Bamco," the British-Australian Machinery Company, Ltd., is showing a most comprehensive assortment of all types of road-making and other machinery of importance to local governing bodies.
These include the Big Champion, Little Champion, and Baby Champion steel reversible road grading machines, having respectively 8ft, 6ft, and 5ft blades; Champion power batch concrete mixer, mounted on portable carriage, and complete with mixer with a capacity of from six to seven cubic yards per hour; also a hand-power batch concrete mixer, on wheels, with patent loading hopper, with a capacity per batch of four cubic foot. There are also road rollers of all types, Ajax portable chemical fire extinguishers, in sizes of from one to fifty gallons; Thistle marine oil engines; Skandia crude oil engine; loading hoppers, scoops, and an infinite variety of other articles.
Early ads indicate rock-crushing machines, elevators and conveyors, horsedrawn road rollers, waggons, drag & wheeled scoops, concrete carts & barrows, and road plows were all part of the line-up of products, after the name change, to Armstrong-Holland Ltd, which appears to be about late 1922 or early 1923.
"Leyland heavy-duty type, metal wagons", and a range of builder hoists and machinery, were also listed as products in 1923.
In the SMH of 1930, there is a couple of paragraphs about a display of A-H road machinery products, including the Bates Steel Mule tractor, at the Sydney Royal Easter Show.
A-H tied up with International to a large degree, and built a lot of IHC tractor attachments in the 40's, 50's and 60's, when imported attachments incurred heavy tariffs. In 1937/38, newspaper ads state that A-H had the agency for McCormick-Deering diesel tractors.
The Armstrong-Holland Bulldog Speed Patrol of 1937, (tractor grader maintainer) was powered by a McCormick-Deering diesel.
I have never seen an Armstrong-Holland catalog of any kind, nor any history of the company written up anywhere. They have just vanished into the mists of time, and have left little for us, except those great name tags on a wide range of items.
SMH - Apr. 18, 1930 .. news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1301&dat=...IBAJ&pg=2371,1571345
SMH - Apr. 4, 1928 .. news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1301&dat=...IBAJ&pg=7176,5700699
SMH - Apr 6, 1926 .. newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16...hinery#pstart1216276
Here's a bloke who went to all the trouble of restoring a 1930 A-H road roller that's powered by a single cylinder Ronaldson Tippett.
Talk about dedicated .. I mean to say, a straddle truck is oddball enough, but who bothers to restore old road rollers?? ..
www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail...ArticleID=10420&vf=1
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14 years 2 months ago #21378
by atkipete
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A great story, he wasnt the only roller at Lake Goldsmith, the only AH one, yes.
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14 years 2 months ago #21379
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And here we have, in the March 19th, 1951 edition of the SMH .. the ad for the above pictured, "Armstrong-Holland Bullgrader" .. "built by arrangement (i.e. - under licence) with BUCYRUS-ERIE CO, Sth Milwaukee, U.S.A."
news.google.com/newspapers?id=lfgQAAAAIB...ng-holland+ltd&hl=en
news.google.com/newspapers?id=lfgQAAAAIB...ng-holland+ltd&hl=en
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13 years 5 months ago #21380
by Ando
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The Armstrong Holland factory was located in Kent Road, Mascot, near the airport. My father worked there from the early 1930's until he retired in 1970. From memory they became very big in hydraulics after WWII, I guess because of their association with International.
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