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2 years 7 months ago #230981
by hayseed
"Be who you are and say what you feel...
Because those that matter...
don't mind...
And those that mind....
don't matter." -
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I must be a Dumb Bugger.... I can't see how it would make any difference.
The Door will weigh exactly the same Regardless of which direction the Brace Goes.. & the weight hanging off the Hinges will be the same Too..
And to get really technical Wood's tensile Strength is Higher than It's Compression Strength..
Anyway , Enough from Me.. :sick:
Cobbadog.. You're Doing (as Always) Excellent Work..
The Door will weigh exactly the same Regardless of which direction the Brace Goes.. & the weight hanging off the Hinges will be the same Too..
And to get really technical Wood's tensile Strength is Higher than It's Compression Strength..
Anyway , Enough from Me.. :sick:
Cobbadog.. You're Doing (as Always) Excellent Work..
"Be who you are and say what you feel...
Because those that matter...
don't mind...
And those that mind....
don't matter." -
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2 years 7 months ago #230991
by Mrsmackpaul
Your better to die trying than live on your knees begging
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Hayseed you are 100% correct, go straight to the head of the class
If we farmer type of people on here can cast our mind way way back to the dim dark days when wood was used for more than keeping us warm we will remember plenty of old cattle yards were the brace went way up high past the top rail up to the top of the post were the big bit of wood went across the gate way
The big bit of wood had a hole in it and that formed the top of the hinge, the bottom hinge pin was a post cut off at almost ground level with the center hollowed out
The higher the stay went the more stable and better supported the gate was
So the big bit of wood across the gate way was a few feet at least higher than a joker on horse back encase the ever unpredictable horse had a brain fart
All this worked well and required bugger all stuff be purchased and carted there for yard building
So it doesn't matter if the stay goes from the bottom of the hinge up or the top of the hinge down, what matters is its there
Paul
If we farmer type of people on here can cast our mind way way back to the dim dark days when wood was used for more than keeping us warm we will remember plenty of old cattle yards were the brace went way up high past the top rail up to the top of the post were the big bit of wood went across the gate way
The big bit of wood had a hole in it and that formed the top of the hinge, the bottom hinge pin was a post cut off at almost ground level with the center hollowed out
The higher the stay went the more stable and better supported the gate was
So the big bit of wood across the gate way was a few feet at least higher than a joker on horse back encase the ever unpredictable horse had a brain fart
All this worked well and required bugger all stuff be purchased and carted there for yard building
So it doesn't matter if the stay goes from the bottom of the hinge up or the top of the hinge down, what matters is its there
Paul
Your better to die trying than live on your knees begging
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2 years 7 months ago #230994
by Lang
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As Hayseed and Paul say "mechanically" there is absolutely no difference, it is the longevity of the material that is being catered for in design.
Unless the gate is constructed of material that never (well for a lifetime anyhow) loses its integrity such as steel, discounting wear and damage that applies to any material, the bottom hinge resting point is necessary for long life.
No matter how well you build a wooden door or gate, without that brace it WILL sag eventually due to natural wood shrinkage and distortion, rot and corrosion of nails themselves or the wood around them. The holes made by the nails/bolts enlarge over time under constant weight and movement.
Without the bottom hinge rest direction brace it WILL sag many years before a "properly" braced door will. If you draw two pictures of the door with everything removed except the three main bits of the triangle you can clearly see a vector diagram with the "proper" method transferring weight onto the fixed bottom hinge and the "not proper" method transferring the weight to the outside swinging corner. This only happens if the triangle tries to move as it WILL with wood.
Unless the gate is constructed of material that never (well for a lifetime anyhow) loses its integrity such as steel, discounting wear and damage that applies to any material, the bottom hinge resting point is necessary for long life.
No matter how well you build a wooden door or gate, without that brace it WILL sag eventually due to natural wood shrinkage and distortion, rot and corrosion of nails themselves or the wood around them. The holes made by the nails/bolts enlarge over time under constant weight and movement.
Without the bottom hinge rest direction brace it WILL sag many years before a "properly" braced door will. If you draw two pictures of the door with everything removed except the three main bits of the triangle you can clearly see a vector diagram with the "proper" method transferring weight onto the fixed bottom hinge and the "not proper" method transferring the weight to the outside swinging corner. This only happens if the triangle tries to move as it WILL with wood.
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2 years 7 months ago #231000
by cobbadog
Cheers Cobba & Cobbarette
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Working on more play time.
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Here is a video of the train doing laps while I work out the sizes and shapes of the rail crossing before painting and fitting. Yep everything is a mess there at the moment. There is a bag of 'little people' sitting in the paddock waiting for a place to stand or sit. The paddocks will get some attention soon enough but it is almost therapeutic listening to the train running around again.
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2 years 7 months ago #231010
by cobbadog
Cheers Cobba & Cobbarette
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Working on more play time.
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Yes, it gets the sound of the wheels running over the joints in the track and gives off that sound like a real one. If I ran that white carriage sitting on the side line near the homestead it sounds more like our NSW rail stock with a wonky wheel. When I pulled it out of the box after over 50 years and tried it on the track there was a problem. Apparently some weight from other parts in the box had bent the wheel over to 45'. I though, well let's not go there, but then how to fix it. I can buy new bogies and wheels but being cheap I wanted to fix it. In the end I used a hot air gun and warmed the wheel and simply pushed it back to being at 90' to the axle. Got it right first attempt too.
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2 years 7 months ago #231073
by Zuffen
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Cobba,
There's nothing more satisfying than fixing it yourself.
Regardless of cost.
You can now look at it and think (or say) I did that.
I'm enjoying a rerun of my Childhood through your efforts.
There's nothing more satisfying than fixing it yourself.
Regardless of cost.
You can now look at it and think (or say) I did that.
I'm enjoying a rerun of my Childhood through your efforts.
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2 years 7 months ago #231074
by Roderick Smith
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2 years 7 months ago #231113
by Zuffen
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6 pence was a chunk of money to a kid in 1958!
That would have been 2 coke bottle returns at the Grocery store.
That would have been 2 coke bottle returns at the Grocery store.
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