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1 year 1 month ago - 1 year 1 month ago #254461 by Lang
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1 year 1 month ago - 1 year 1 month ago #254464 by jon_d
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You know, that's sort of funny and troubling at the same time.

First off....  oh look at this. Using a motorbike to get an old engine started. 

But then, you wonder about what the old engine is doing and the manufacturing output from it.  And, then,  you wonder if we still have those skills or have they been commercially lost forever.

Same as all the machinery repairs and casting (etc) videos we get.
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1 year 1 month ago #254482 by cobbadog
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With the usual attention to safety boots. MILLAT any relative to Ivan

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1 year 1 month ago #254488 by JOHN.K.
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I put new rings in an old JP4 Lister ,and it had no compression......got it going with a motorbike on the flywheel.
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1 year 1 month ago #254493 by cobbadog
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I had to belt up my McDonald and my 8hp Lister to the PTO pulley to get them to start after rebuilds.

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1 year 1 month ago #254504 by PaulFH
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Might want to reword that Cob, Engine Protection Group might be onto you.
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1 year 1 month ago #254506 by wouldyou
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Not much evidence of them at tractor pulls.
David.
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1 year 1 month ago #254509 by cobbadog
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Na, I'll stand by the comment, it left no bruises

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1 year 1 month ago #254522 by Normanby
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Among stationary engine collectors the method of a friction drive to the flywheel of a large engine to aid starting is not unusual. Larger stationary engine sometimes are fitted with high pressure air cylinders and the attached valves and pipework to get the engine started after rotating with compressed air. Where large stationary engines do not have air start then the starting method can be manual rotation of the flywheels until over compression when it may start. If the operator is unable to start an engine manually then an assisted method would be used such as friction drive,a donkey engine or with it belted up to a tractor pto puller such as Cobba mentioned, and not always just for large engines.
I am contemplating using an assistance method for starting a Lincoln Weldanpower welder fitted with a Lombardini diesel engine. I have had this welder more than twenty years but it is much older than that and still works well welding and generating. The starting method is using a rope on a pulley and then rocking the engine back and forwards until able to pull it over compression when it starts. All good when this happens but sometimes it doesn't. There is no compression release fitted and no starter or even a ring gear and starter available.As my age increases it is more difficult to start it first time. I think I will look at fitting a spare 12V starter motor with a friction wheel and battery where I can hold it against the starting pulley          

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with a lever setup. Open for ideas. I will add some photos of the welder and its instructions. Gerry. 
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1 year 1 month ago - 1 year 1 month ago #254523 by Normanby
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Couldn't add some photos in previous post so will add them here. Gerry

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