- Posts: 1755
- Thank you received: 1832
Help replacing damaged wooden floor in '68 Bedford Comair Bus
- Sarah
- Topic Author
7 years 2 months ago #179404
by Sarah
Help replacing damaged wooden floor in '68 Bedford Comair Bus was created by Sarah
Hi all,
I bought a 1968 Bedford Bus recently and need to remove/replace a section of the wooden floor (I removed the tiles) due to water damage. I'm wondering if you have any advice on how to do it and what to replace it with?
I assumed there would be a metal sub floor but it turns out under the tiles was just wooden floor.
Thanks in advance
Sarah
I bought a 1968 Bedford Bus recently and need to remove/replace a section of the wooden floor (I removed the tiles) due to water damage. I'm wondering if you have any advice on how to do it and what to replace it with?
I assumed there would be a metal sub floor but it turns out under the tiles was just wooden floor.
Thanks in advance
Sarah
Please Log in to join the conversation.
7 years 2 months ago #179410
by PDU
Replied by PDU on topic Help replacing damaged wooden floor in '68 Bedford Comair Bus
Plywood vs Yellow tongue particle board :dry:
Plywood is lightweight and has a better strength-to-weight ratio than steel (apparently ) and is able to handle construction knocks without damage. It is more stable than solid wood when subjected to moisture changes - though it can deteriorate with long exposure to the weather - and can carry high structural loads.
Particleboard, on the other hand, is more cost effective, more durable in protected environments - though can swell after being exposed to rain - and is more suited to residential than industrial use.
Yellow tongue 19mm thick/red tongue 22mm/ blue tongue 25mm!!
Plywood is lightweight and has a better strength-to-weight ratio than steel (apparently ) and is able to handle construction knocks without damage. It is more stable than solid wood when subjected to moisture changes - though it can deteriorate with long exposure to the weather - and can carry high structural loads.
Particleboard, on the other hand, is more cost effective, more durable in protected environments - though can swell after being exposed to rain - and is more suited to residential than industrial use.
Yellow tongue 19mm thick/red tongue 22mm/ blue tongue 25mm!!
Please Log in to join the conversation.
7 years 2 months ago - 7 years 2 months ago #179416
by jon_d
Replied by jon_d on topic Help replacing damaged wooden floor in '68 Bedford Comair Bus
Sarah,
Don't use particle board or yellow tongue.
It's extremely heavy and not structural. Screws will move as the bus flexes a little.
(I reckon mine expands (widens/narrows) about 1cm between a hot and cold day.
Plus if you're building a motor-home you've got to minimise weight where ever you can.
The only choice is ply. A BC grade will be suitable. Shop around because there are some good deals to be had.
My '72 Comair has a watertight paper coating underneath and after 45 years it's still good.
Just a word of caution, the vinyl tiles most likely have asbestos in them. There are some recommended ways to remove them with out breaking them up.
Don't use particle board or yellow tongue.
It's extremely heavy and not structural. Screws will move as the bus flexes a little.
(I reckon mine expands (widens/narrows) about 1cm between a hot and cold day.
Plus if you're building a motor-home you've got to minimise weight where ever you can.
The only choice is ply. A BC grade will be suitable. Shop around because there are some good deals to be had.
My '72 Comair has a watertight paper coating underneath and after 45 years it's still good.
Just a word of caution, the vinyl tiles most likely have asbestos in them. There are some recommended ways to remove them with out breaking them up.
Last edit: 7 years 2 months ago by jon_d.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
7 years 2 months ago #179451
by hayseed
"Be who you are and say what you feel...
Because those that matter...
don't mind...
And those that mind....
don't matter." -
Replied by hayseed on topic Help replacing damaged wooden floor in '68 Bedford Comair Bus
Sarah, I'd use Marine Plywood. It'll be more expensive but it will handle the Moisture far better than anything Else. (In My opinion)
"Be who you are and say what you feel...
Because those that matter...
don't mind...
And those that mind....
don't matter." -
Please Log in to join the conversation.
7 years 2 months ago #179455
by atkipete
Replied by atkipete on topic Help replacing damaged wooden floor in '68 Bedford Comair Bus
Are tiles a good idea in a motor home ? They have to be on a really solid base to avoid cracking.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
Less
More
- Posts: 1108
- Thank you received: 546
7 years 2 months ago #179467
by Blackduck59
Replied by Blackduck59 on topic Help replacing damaged wooden floor in '68 Bedford Comair Bus
Marine ply would be top on the water resistant list, form ply would be next.
I would coat the underside before installing with a good water proofing sealer. If there is a chance of water from the inside do the topside as well.
Have a 5th wheeler and the Yanks used a form of chip board for the floor, does not play well with water. Been busy resealing all the windows as the original installers did a pretty shoddy job and had water enter the unit. Got lucky and the floor did not suffer a lot of damage.
Floor has been recovered with Pegulan Vinyl ( lino )
Cheers Steve
I would coat the underside before installing with a good water proofing sealer. If there is a chance of water from the inside do the topside as well.
Have a 5th wheeler and the Yanks used a form of chip board for the floor, does not play well with water. Been busy resealing all the windows as the original installers did a pretty shoddy job and had water enter the unit. Got lucky and the floor did not suffer a lot of damage.
Floor has been recovered with Pegulan Vinyl ( lino )
Cheers Steve
Please Log in to join the conversation.
7 years 2 months ago #179468
by asw120
I was assuming (as, I think jon D before me) that they were lino tiles. (which the old ones certainly do have asbestos in them - some of the older buildings on my run have them)
Jarrod.
“I offer my opponents a bargain: if they will stop telling lies about us, I will stop telling the truth about them”
― Adlai E. Stevenson II
Replied by asw120 on topic Help replacing damaged wooden floor in '68 Bedford Comair Bus
atkipete wrote: Are tiles a good idea in a motor home ? They have to be on a really solid base to avoid cracking.
I was assuming (as, I think jon D before me) that they were lino tiles. (which the old ones certainly do have asbestos in them - some of the older buildings on my run have them)
Jarrod.
“I offer my opponents a bargain: if they will stop telling lies about us, I will stop telling the truth about them”
― Adlai E. Stevenson II
Please Log in to join the conversation.
7 years 2 months ago #179471
by busman
84 Austral Tourmaster with 6V92 and now 7 speed Eaton-Fuller, converted to motorhome "Vanishing Point" after a favourite American movie.
3 Kw solar 800 Ah Lithium house battery pack, all engine cooling done by the sun. Water injection for hot days and hill climbs.
Replied by busman on topic Help replacing damaged wooden floor in '68 Bedford Comair Bus
If you are tempted to use Bunnings tiles with adhesive backing--- don't !
Last week we completed removing ours after they let go in the heat, what a shite of a job that was. Loose laid a nice thick commercial vinyl, looks and feels way better.
BTW we used form ply straight over the original, to get rid of the centre aisle.
Last week we completed removing ours after they let go in the heat, what a shite of a job that was. Loose laid a nice thick commercial vinyl, looks and feels way better.
BTW we used form ply straight over the original, to get rid of the centre aisle.
84 Austral Tourmaster with 6V92 and now 7 speed Eaton-Fuller, converted to motorhome "Vanishing Point" after a favourite American movie.
3 Kw solar 800 Ah Lithium house battery pack, all engine cooling done by the sun. Water injection for hot days and hill climbs.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
7 years 2 months ago #179662
by brisbeddy
It sucks to get old and decrepit !
Replied by brisbeddy on topic Help replacing damaged wooden floor in '68 Bedford Comair Bus
Hi,
I would go Formply and seal any cut Bits.
Cheers
Dieter
I would go Formply and seal any cut Bits.
Cheers
Dieter
It sucks to get old and decrepit !
Please Log in to join the conversation.
Time to create page: 0.591 seconds