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Ford 6D/Thames Trader Questions 07 Mar 2021 18:51 #219550

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Hi all,
I have recently bought a Thames Trader and a spare 6D engine. I have a couple of questions that I'm hoping someone can answer.
Here is the engine ... a bit dusty from the long drive on dirt roads.
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1. On the other side of the engine are 3 fittings. Can anyone identify them. I think a is oil (oil pressure), B is water temp ... no idea what C is.
2. I know that when fitted in a Thames Trader, then engine are mounted on a slant, however this engine was used as a stationary engine. If I what to run it externally (to test it) should I run it on a slant or vertical? Is there any way to tell which way it should be run?

Thanks in advance.

Vernon.

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Ford 6D/Thames Trader Questions 07 Mar 2021 21:45 #219555

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As you guessed it, A=oil pressure, B= water temp, C = water drain for the block.

As to how to run this engine. Going by the way the gearbox is attached this should be run in the vertical position as shown in the pic, unless there is an angled sump out of site.
This now makes me ask that if this is or was a slant engine shouldn't there be a slanted shape sump for that application?
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Ford 6D/Thames Trader Questions 07 Mar 2021 21:57 #219557

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Could 'C' be to drain water from the engine block. I don't know the angle of the slant as such, but don't think there would be an issue running it at +/- 30 degrees from normal angle.
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Ford 6D/Thames Trader Questions 07 Mar 2021 22:03 #219558

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I think 'C' would be water drain for the block.
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Ford 6D/Thames Trader Questions 08 Mar 2021 00:36 #219559

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Ford 6/330 cu in diesel ...comonly seen as an industrial engine in air compressors,also popular in boats with various marine conversions .......note the engine must never be run with the vacuum pipes to the throttle plate disconnected........If it wont govern ,th diaphragm may be cracked .......in any case ,a small ammount of neatsfoot oil should be put into the vacuum chamber.

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Ford 6D/Thames Trader Questions 08 Mar 2021 00:44 #219560

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C looks like a water drain tap...
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Ford 6D/Thames Trader Questions 08 Mar 2021 08:21 #219563

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In general, an engine designed to be fitted on a slant, or horizontal for that mater, will have a sump designed so that it is flat at the bottom. Petrol engines will have the intake manifold designed to hold the carbie in position for the float chamber to be level.

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Ford 6D/Thames Trader Questions 08 Mar 2021 09:05 #219566

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When they fitted those Motors to the D Series at roughly 45 Degrees they had a Different Sump & oil Pickup..

Is Your Truck a "K" series as I have a Workshop Manual that covers both "D" & "K" Series..
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Ford 6D/Thames Trader Questions 08 Mar 2021 10:24 #219569

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As you guessed it, A=oil pressure, B= water temp, C = water drain for the block.

As to how to run this engine. Going by the way the gearbox is attached this should be run in the vertical position as shown in the pic, unless there is an angled sump out of site.
This now makes me ask that if this is or was a slant engine shouldn't there be a slanted shape sump for that application?


Thanks for that info.
I'm pretty sure the sump is flat bottomed and not angled, but I'll take a closer look. I believe this "spare" engine came from a newer model Trader ... the one I bought (but have not yet taken possession of) is the short nosed 1962.

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Ford 6D/Thames Trader Questions 08 Mar 2021 10:27 #219570

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Ford 6/330 cu in diesel ...comonly seen as an industrial engine in air compressors,also popular in boats with various marine conversions .......note the engine must never be run with the vacuum pipes to the throttle plate disconnected........If it wont govern ,th diaphragm may be cracked .......in any case ,a small ammount of neatsfoot oil should be put into the vacuum chamber.


This spare engine has the mechanically governed injection pump. The engine in the vehicle has the vacuum governed pump, so thank you for the advice.

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