Cummins V8 555 & 903

Also the yanks refered to the 555 cummins as a tiple nickle

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just curious is a VT190 (which is most likely what this acco is fitted with as unlike the dealer says "VT210 personally ive never seen a acco with a VT210) . .anyway is a VT190 or VT210 a 504 or 555 cummins or a totally different engine ?
cheers ken

Ken,

The PT fuel system on these Cummins engines had a little orifice pill that could be changed to uprate the HP. Im sure the VT210 is a VT190 uprated.
Atkipete will know im sure.
I think some engines have reputations sometimes they really dont deserve cos they havent been looked after. The poor old 3208 Cat is another engine that has been generally given the "crap" badge...still plenty of them going strong though.
Wouldnt be to worried about the 210 if its been looked after, has proper coolant in it. Have a look at the coolant slow release filter looking thingy and see if its a proper Cummins (fleetguard) canister and if it looks like its been changed. Should be done reguraly so it will look in reasonable nick.
It will honk some smoke out when started up cold to. This is pretty normal for them.

Basil

Baz,

Tell me about the poor 3208 Cat!

I know a bloke who has a Leader A8-208 MidRanger (me waffling on again about Leaders :) that had a 3208 with natural aspiration.... broke the engine 3 times in one year - last time the engine pooped itself, Dad and I went back to see him (as we know both the Leader's owner and the bloke who was trying to tow it back to town for him)! Dave (the towie) asked Dad to have a look at it - as soon as Graham (the truck's owner) hit the key, the engine fired, it was knocking and oil came p!ssing out of the LH bank around the middle two cylinders!

For that size of truck and the loads it hauls, the 3208 NA would be fairly well underpowered - he repowered it with a Cummins L10 250 (I think) - he has a old T-Line Inter water tanker with a Cummins in it as well so they make a great couple!

The Inter is a good old truck too - been for many a drive in the T-Line with the drivers - last driver was Graham actually - and I feel that it is a good solid truck and will last for ages!

Kenny,

The VT190 and the V8-504 are the same and the V555 was the same as the early VT210 - according to the Queensland Fuel Injection products website - www.qfi.com.au/products.html

As Swishy says, I Do Stand To Be Corrected!

Joe

Not sure these are the same engine Joe, that website lists a different pump for them. One engine is turbo and one is not. Are there any Cummins experts out there ?

i remember the old non turbo 555 in accos etc being rated at up to 210hp(185hp in dodges)
but with a turbo the rating would be a lot more? im guessing a cummins VT190 means 190hp ?

bit i have learnt over the years
butterbox acco had V185 or 210 V8 cummins-they shared the same block but the 185 had a shorter stroke.
most people who new their stuff could tell by looking at the water plumbing and so forth in a old acco to tell what engine it was . then the tricksters worked outhow to dress up a 185 as a 210 to get a better sale.
a 555 cummins is about 225 HP- and i think you will find that a VT190 is a detuned 555

decisions decisions ive got my truck search down to a acco 1950D with a VT190 auto (thats why im trying to find out a little about the VT donks)or another UD CPC14 6 speed ..as ill be doing a little interstate work i wonder how the VT190s perform esp with a auto behind it .. the UDs go well but they drink a bit of the go juice ..also the UD has 700.000ks on the clock the acco 170.000ks

just looking through some old dodge books i have, the cummins V8 "210E" is rated at 185bhp 3300rpm torque 329ft/lbs @1900 .. not really much more torque than the perkins 6.354 131bhp @2800 284ft/lbs @ 1600rpm . . . .
the little 6V53-H 216bhp @2800rpm & 440ft/lbs @ 1800rpm

Woo Hoo...Go the 6V53 Screamer

Woo Hoo...Go the 6V53 Screamer

Baz,

I agree - I would rather the Detroits over the Cummins - not being partial to the Detroits but I know a certain neighbour who had a LNT9000 Ford with a V903 in it.... the truck sat idle for about 10 years and it took her son half a can of ether, 40 litres of clean diesel fuel and 6 batteries to get the engine started! And she was idling a bit rough but that ironed out! Another problem was the tanks for the air were leaking - I sat in the cab with the engine on 1500rpm and monitored the air pressure... it fluctuated within, say, 4 - 6 kpa of the cutout pressure on the compressor!

Joe