Gvm vs gcm? Atkinson

G'day

Ok so I'm finally ready to get my truck on the road. It's going for a rwc tomorrow and hence here in nsw I need a green slip before I can get it registered.

I've got a gcm of 40 ton but I need a gvm for the truck? Is there a calculation to work out the gvm?

Anyone else with a 3800 know what the gvm is? Swishy?

Cheers

The GVM and GCM is usually set by the vehicle manufacturer depending on what equipment is fitted eg brakes, diffs, suspension etc. If you take your chassis number to the transport dept they should be able to tell you what mass it was previously registered with.

As mentioned above, the rego branch will have previous records.
Assuming it has a 6t front axle and is a bogie drive, it should rate at 22500.
If it has the 5.4t axle in it and bogie drive it could rate at 20400.
I had a feeling that some of the early ones were rated at 38800 gcm.

Happy to be corrected on any of those figures, but the rego branch should have the figures in the system

chocs

Dig a ditch, if my Memory is still working.
(I think) the Fibreglass cabbed ones had a Plate riveted to the chassis between the Steer axle spring Hangers (can't remember which side though ) with the Numbers you'll need..

BISTBC...

G'day

I've got a brass plate off the chassis but the gvm part is not stamped.

Ill ring Vicroads and see what comes of it.

Cheers

Gidday Ditch,

I had this problem recently when I went to register my UltralinerII. It only had a GCM on the plate and Mack left the GVM unstamped. After much to-ing and fro-ing between Mack Arndell Park and the mechanic doing the slips, the RMS came up with, because it is registered with a turntable it it considered a prime mover and as such has no body hence not a rigid and doesn't need a GVM. If in future a body is fitted then a letter from the manufacturer or engineer is all that is needed to fix this. Fixed and registered without a problem and no GVM on the papers. Hope this helps.

David

G'day

Thanks mate. Good info.

New problem, won't register it without a compliance plate. The plate I have is a big brass one bout 8x5" it looks as though it been a blank and then stamped. Trying my luck with vicroads now to see what can be done. Not entirely sure if the rms (rta) are going to like this at all.

Am I correct in saying the compliance plate should be down on the chassis rail. Front left side?

Cheers

...your compliance plate may be riveted somewhere around the cab interior or door openings....

...if you can't find one it just means that it was too early for the ADR's that applied later on, and shouldn't cause any big dramas at the rego branch...

...it's a bit like someone registering an FJ Holden and the authorities saying ''where's the compliance plate?'' : :

Need some claification - conditional or full rego? Are you in NSW or Vic?
Compliance plates came in about 1971, are aluminium and measure 100 x 50 mm, usually fixed by two pop rivets on the fire wall but could be on either door or somewhere in between.

If going on full rego the cost will vary with wheel configuration and the load you are licenced to carry(gvm) and/or pull (gcm), so for example a solo rigid will cost x, but a rigid licenced to pull a dog will cost x plus $$$$. Get some counselling lined up before you ask how much. So many variables in charging that you need a computer to work it out - so you are reliant on RMS staff to explain all your options.

G'day

Thanks mate. Good info.

New problem, won't register it without a compliance plate. The plate I have is a big brass one bout 8x5" it looks as though it been a blank and then stamped. Trying my luck with vicroads now to see what can be done. Not entirely sure if the rms (rta) are going to like this at all.

Am I correct in saying the compliance plate should be down on the chassis rail. Front left side?

Cheers

....we're on a fast track, learning about the big Atkinson plate on the chassis Dig a ditch....it contained not much more info than the model, engine and chassis numbers, and because (i guess) of the semi finished state these imported chassis came in, they really couldn't have much more than that very basic information....

...the cabs were produced and fitted locally, as were the tyres,turntable or body equipment etc, and there were modifications to the drivetrain to suit the application for when they were finally released to the customer.....at that time they were certainly becoming a custom built truck in the Peterbilt and Kenworth vein ....