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6 years 9 months ago #184238 by olddon
Just saw on the Police Facebook pages that from July 1 the speed limit will be 40 kmh past a Police or Emergency Vehicle that has the flashing lights operating.It didn't say whether that applies when on a freeway though
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6 years 9 months ago #184239 by murray2230

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6 years 9 months ago #184241 by Lang
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So every time a police car or bike pulls someone over, the entire freeway traffic comes to a halt?

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6 years 9 months ago #184243 by olddon
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sounds like it Lang !!!

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6 years 9 months ago #184244 by Swishy
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Old On
Gudday M8

Than fir the info
if it twazn't 4 U we'd B nun the wiser and donate n 2 the gumment
Twould B good if the powers 2 B
made all new Laws to start at the start of each season Winter, Spring,Summer,Autumn
with full publication in all media
jist so we kno wots go n on

Hang on... may B not good idea cos the revenue raising campaign would decrease
coz ppl will then kno wotz legal n not
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6 years 9 months ago #184246 by Roderick Smith
Classic knee jerk. Most people do slow past emergencies, and do move to the right. Some naughty people don't slow. Yet again, a uselessly-low limit has been applied so that everyone becomes a criminal, and one can drive to Albury at 40 km/h the whole way because the road is filled with police raising revenue by stopping cars which were doing 50 km/h.

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June 20 2017 'Explain it better': RACV queries 40km/h speed rules near emergency vehicles .
Victoria's peak motoring body has cast doubt on new road rules requiring drivers to slow down to 40km/h when passing emergency vehicles, calling for an urgent review of the new policy.
The RACV revealed on Tuesday it had raised concerns with the state government about the practicality of slowing down from speeds of up to 110km/h on country roads and freeways.
Police are treating a fire, in which at least six cabs were damaged, as suspicious. Vision courtesty: Seven News.
The new laws require all motorists to slow to 40km/h when passing stationary or slow-moving emergency vehicles displaying lights or sirens, or risk a $277 fine.
But RACV roads and traffic manager Dave Jones said he feared there would be safety implications for other road users, and said there should have been a longer education period before the laws were introduced.
"In some situations, for example high-speed country roads that have got hills, they're undulating roads and sharp bends," he told radio station 3AW.
"It may be very difficult for someone to see the flashing emergency vehicles' lights far enough in advance so they can slow down to 40 in time. And if they do manage to slam on the anchors ... will any vehicle behind them be able to do it?"
Mr Jones told Fairfax Media that VicRoads needed to better explain the new road rules to ensure motorists understood.
Victorian Transport Association CEO Peter Anderson said heavy vehicles should be afforded special consideration because of their size and weight.
More than half of all multi-vehicle crashes in Australia involved heavy vehicles. Photo: Michael Clayton-Jones .
"Trucks carrying loads and travelling at speed on freeways, down hills and around corners can't just abruptly slow down, and attempts to do so could be unsafe and cause more harm than good," he said.
The changes, which come into effect on July 1, were introduced to reduce the number of deaths and injuries among roadside emergency workers.
This ambulance was hit on the Monash Freeway. Photo: Channel 7 .
Associate Professor Stuart Newstead of Monash University's accident research centre, said educating heavy-vehicle drivers to safely slow down at emergency scenes was critical to the policy's success.
"The intent of the changes is very good but we need to be educating motorists extensively on the new rules ... a small segment on television or an article in the newspaper is not enough. There needs to be major publicity about it," Associate Professor Newstead said.
"This is particularly important for heavy-vehicle drivers because if they don't know to slow down they can take a lot of people out with them which can obviously have very serious outcomes for everyone involved."
The sweeping changes were announced by Roads Minister Luke Donnellan on Monday after a survey found almost one-in-five emergency service workers said they'd had four or more near misses on roadsides over the past three years.
Mr Donnellan said there would be an extensive campaign to ensure road users were aware of the change.
The rule will apply to police, ambulance, fire, SES and VicRoads vehicles on all types of roads, including all lanes on freeways.
No demerit points will apply to the rule, but the maximum court penalty will be $793.
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Paramedic Charlotte Paton was almost hit by a semi-trailer while treating someone on the side of the road.
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June 20 2017 New speed rule aims to safeguard emergency workers on roadside .
Charlotte Paton doesn't remember much about what was going through her mind as the semi-trailer barrelled towards her, apart from the obvious: move.
The paramedic was only doing her job. On that Monday morning in May she was treating the driver of a silver Nissan Pulsar who had crashed into a guard rail on the side of the Monash Freeway.
Victoria's new 40km/h speed limit rule.
Drivers could face a $277 on-the-spot fine if they don't slow down to passing emergency vehicles with their lights and sirens on. Vision courtesy: Seven News.
Suddenly, a bystander screamed "run". When Ms Patton looked around, she saw a red B-double hurtling towards her.
"I just thought I needed to get out of the way," she said. "We ran down the emergency lane and jumped the barrier. Thankfully, when I looked up everybody was OK, because these injuries could have been really bad."
Paramedic Charlotte Paton was almost hit by a semi-trailer while treating someone on the side of the road. Photo: Eddie Jim .
The truck had ploughed through an ambulance, police car and the Pulsar before jack-knifing on to the opposite side of the road. Thankfully, no one was hurt.
Ms Paton shared her story at the announcement of a new rule requiring drivers to slow down to 40km/h when passing an emergency vehicle parked on the side of the road.
The change will come into effect on July 1 in an effort to reduce the number of deaths and injuries among roadside emergency workers.
Road users who don't cut their speed while overtaking a stationary or slow-moving emergency vehicle with its lights and sirens on will be hit with a $277 fine.
The semi-trailer involved in the Monash Freeway crash with an ambulance in May. Photo: Channel 9 .
The rule will apply to police, ambulance, fire, SES and VicRoads vehicles on all types of roads, including all lanes on freeways.
Situations in which a driver is expected to slow down include a regulation traffic stop by a police officer. No demerit points will apply to the rule, but the maximum court penalty will be $793.
The ambulance hit in the Monash Freeway crash is towed from the scene. Photo: Channel 7 .
Pulling a driver over is one of the most dangerous jobs for police, says acting assistant commissioner of road policing Deb Robertson.
"We've lost 28 police in the course of history from roadside intercepts; the last one was in 2005," she said.
Ms Robertson said the rule was an extension of the existing requirement that drivers give way when an emergency vehicle is driving with its lights and sirens on.
Roads Minister Luke Donnellan said that while most people did the right thing, there was a small number of people on the roads who put themselves before the safety of others.
He said there would be an extensive ad campaign to ensure road users were aware of the change.
"What we're telling the community now is that we want all people to slow down when they see an incident, when they see flashing lights, when they hear a siren," he said.
The minister cited a survey in which one in five emergency workers had experienced a near miss while stopped on the roadside.
He acknowledged the rule would be difficult to enforce if emergency workers were focused on responding to an incident, but said it was about creating cultural change.
Application of the rule would be at the discretion of Victoria Police, he said.
"It's very difficult to have a hard-and-fast rule in this space," he said.
Police Association secretary Wayne Gatt said the rules would be applied with a "healthy dose of common sense".
"What we need to remember is that police and emergency services are doing just that," he said. "They are responding to emergencies to assist the community."
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6 years 9 months ago #184252 by Claire
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Hi guys,

We've had this law in SA for over 18 months and its actually 25kph here, on all roads.

BUT, they don't tell you that the speed limit is only enforceable when actually passing the flashing lights or zones in-between, such as at driver testing station or a crash scene, where it is between the 1st and the last set of flashing blue/red lights at the roadside, whether they are made up of police fire or ambo and include emergency flares.

This means that if its just a single police fleet stationary at the roadside, the 40kph limit in VIC will only be enforceable for the length of the fleet (6m max).

It is rarely enforced in SA for that reason, but you will be chased down, stopped and severely verbally chastised if seen flying past a crash scene or booze bus well in excess of the limit.

Most cops apply the common sense rules in SA though and allow you to pass at more than 25kph, as long as you appear to have at least acknowledge their presence, slow down and given them a safe distance when passing.

There has been no successfully prosecution to my knowledge in court, as you also need to be more than 200m inside any speed zone to be successfully prosecuted, so that's never going to happen!

The new rule is there more as a way of slowing people down to a sensible speed, to make all emergency zones a safe place for the crews to do their work, after all, its their office and they are only there to make sure that WE all get home at the end of the day safe.

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6 years 9 months ago #184253 by Mrsmackpaul
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I was always lead to believe that a major cause of motor vehicle accidents was people slowing down to have a rubber neck ????
Even on those police shows on TV now you see it happen in front of the cameras

I was taught you should just pass at a safe speed, I guess we no longer know what a safe speed is
Come to think of it we never really have hence the need for speed limits in the first place


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6 years 9 months ago #184254 by Swishy
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Why not each n every emergency vehicle travel with there own traffic management crew


https://www.coateshire.com.au/getattachment/b9f66222-7610-4847-944f-71dc9a0cee05/traffic-management-hire/?height=508&width=508

There .................... problem solved

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6 years 9 months ago #184282 by Zuffen
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The Powers that be state the workers feel endangered.

How many are injured each year or how many die each year on the roadside?

If the fatality rate per capita of workers is rising all well and good but with the astronomic increase in the number of stop/go and sundry riff raff on the roadside I would expect to see an increase in the number of events.

I have trouble believing 1 in 5 Emergency workers have had 4 or more near misses in the last 3 years. There should dead and dying Emergency workers littering the roadside like empty Ma Donald's containers.

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