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Thornycroft Nubian 4x4 Airfield Crash Tender
5 years 2 months ago #198542
by wee-allis
Replied by wee-allis on topic Thornycroft Nubian 4 x 4 Airfield Fire Tender
As Lang said, welcome to the forum. As an ex-Nirimba MOBI from the '60s, I remember the unit being required to fight a fire in the Officers Ward room, but by the time they got it started, the local town brigade backed up by Blacktown had arrived and gone to work.
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5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #198547
by Nirpro
Replied by Nirpro on topic Thornycroft Nubian 4 x 4 Airfield Fire Tender
Thanks for the responses. I have a picture of the Schofields Bush Fire Brigade Blitz at the Wardroom fire (was a member of the brigade for many years). In the course of chasing down further information on the unit I have had replies from a couple of others who were at Nirimba and remembered the old girl. One actually supplied the image of her in 1957 whilst the other said that there were a number of interesting stories (but did not expand). Hopefully it will be no more difficult to start now.
As a rare unit the contact at the Thornycroft Register at first said that they were a common unit but, later, realised that it was the Mk5s he was thinking of. This unit design was found to be underpowered and they moved to the Rolls Royce B80 engine (also used in many Dennis fire engines). Also (I believe) that they tended to be a little unstable. I believe that the move to the 6 wheel Nubian versions overcame the issues (as can be seen by their longevity in service). Morris, thank you for the offer but this is definitely a one off. With regard to units found, the RAN Fleet Air Arm Museum supplied copies of the one that was at HMAS Albatross and another image of the one at Nirimba. I have since found a similar unit at the RAF Firefighting Museum in the UK and a Royal Canadian Air Force unit. This design (with the steel shutter doors in the area of the pump) appears to be a design for the Royal Navy. This one at Nirimba ties in with its history as a Royal Navy aircraft maintenance facility and, later HMAS Nirimba, Royal Australian Naval Air Station Schofields (1953 to 1956) being retained after the establishment recommissioned as HMAS Nirimba (the RANs trade training establishment).
As a rare unit the contact at the Thornycroft Register at first said that they were a common unit but, later, realised that it was the Mk5s he was thinking of. This unit design was found to be underpowered and they moved to the Rolls Royce B80 engine (also used in many Dennis fire engines). Also (I believe) that they tended to be a little unstable. I believe that the move to the 6 wheel Nubian versions overcame the issues (as can be seen by their longevity in service). Morris, thank you for the offer but this is definitely a one off. With regard to units found, the RAN Fleet Air Arm Museum supplied copies of the one that was at HMAS Albatross and another image of the one at Nirimba. I have since found a similar unit at the RAF Firefighting Museum in the UK and a Royal Canadian Air Force unit. This design (with the steel shutter doors in the area of the pump) appears to be a design for the Royal Navy. This one at Nirimba ties in with its history as a Royal Navy aircraft maintenance facility and, later HMAS Nirimba, Royal Australian Naval Air Station Schofields (1953 to 1956) being retained after the establishment recommissioned as HMAS Nirimba (the RANs trade training establishment).
Last edit: 5 years 2 months ago by Nirpro. Reason: Adding other comments.
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4 years 9 months ago #201655
by Nirpro
Replied by Nirpro on topic Thornycroft Nubian 4 x 4 Airfield Fire Tender
Just as an update: I have found no further information to support this unit being offered as a Nubian. From the factory register held by the Hampshire Cultural Trust it was a TF/AC4/1 chassis supplied to Sun Engineering on the 7th May 1953.
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4 years 2 months ago #206310
by Gary Williamson
Replied by Gary Williamson on topic Thornycroft Nubian 4x4 Airfield Crash Tender
On the 31st of Jan 2019 Nirpro shared his story about the Thornycroft Nubian crash tender he owns that came from the Nirimba air base, we own a truck that came from the Albatross air base but missing the fire fighting gear from the back . I would like to contact Nirpro as we might be able to help each other as we hope to do a similar type of rebuild.
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4 years 2 months ago #206318
by Sarge
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Replied by Sarge on topic Thornycroft Nubian 4x4 Airfield Crash Tender
memory refresher for you really old farts.... n me:-
www.hcvc.com.au/forum/truck_Chat/17868-t...-fire-tender?start=0
not sure I got that link right, getting older by the minute.
www.hcvc.com.au/forum/truck_Chat/17868-t...-fire-tender?start=0
not sure I got that link right, getting older by the minute.
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4 years 2 months ago - 4 years 2 months ago #206324
by lantana jack
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“The improver of natural knowledge absolutely refuses to acknowledge authority, as such. For him, skepticism is the highest of duties; blind faith the one unpardonable sin.” Thomas Huxley
Replied by lantana jack on topic Thornycroft Nubian 4x4 Airfield Crash Tender
Them fire trucks were actually based at a particular base for their term of service ??
Via auction, I picked up one of the old Titans last year and it appears to have been everywhere...
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Via auction, I picked up one of the old Titans last year and it appears to have been everywhere...
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“The improver of natural knowledge absolutely refuses to acknowledge authority, as such. For him, skepticism is the highest of duties; blind faith the one unpardonable sin.” Thomas Huxley
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4 years 2 months ago - 4 years 2 months ago #206326
by hayseed
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Replied by hayseed on topic Thornycroft Nubian 4 x 4 Airfield Fire Tender
I've just spliced these two threads together. Gary, Nirpro hasn't logged in fro some Time.. I'd suggest you join the Forum & send Him a PM..
Here's a link to enable you to Join the Forum.. forum@hcvc.com.au
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4 years 2 months ago #206329
by Gryphon
Replied by Gryphon on topic Thornycroft Nubian 4 x 4 Airfield Fire Tender
Hi,
I sent an email to Nirpro this morning to let him/her know there was someone looking for them, so they may respond.
Terry
I sent an email to Nirpro this morning to let him/her know there was someone looking for them, so they may respond.
Terry
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4 years 2 months ago #206335
by Nirpro
Replied by Nirpro on topic Thornycroft Nubian 4x4 Airfield Crash Tender
More than happy to assist where I can just need to work out contact process. One matter from the much earlier response, I was remiss in attributing the image of the Nirimba unit taken in 1957 on the airfield. It came from the photo album of Tom Shaw (apologies to Tom for not offering that information at the time).
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