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International 610a 4x4 29 Nov 2019 12:43 #204532

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I used to put a #3 Eaton from a 180 in these......although the Rockwell in them was a lot better diff than the IH one in the Clines......a Rockwell wont be hard to find ,there are lots of rusted out 1610 ACCOs about and D1610 4x4 s.....if the diff is a Rockwell ,it will have square axle tubes ,the IH diffs always used round tubes......Have a good look at the front diff too........replace bearings if needed....dont want a front fail........Although a common cause of diff failure in 4x4s is running with water in the diffs after driving in creeks.......or even worse ,on the beach.......The stink of diff oil with salt water in it is foul.
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International 610a 4x4 29 Nov 2019 14:00 #204533

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Yeah thanks john, I didn’t take much notice of the diff s , until this morning, and judging by the size of them, the diff in my car is bigger...I was pleasantly surprised by the gear box, it’s a 5 speed with a 4 speed gear knob lol , question is the diff in a 1610 has the same ratio as the 610 @ 6.16 ?
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International 610a 4x4 29 Nov 2019 14:01 #204534

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Bugger me

No good at and sorry Im no good at diffs

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International 610a 4x4 29 Nov 2019 14:13 #204535

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I think u do have some and secretly want to give it/sell it ...

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International 610a 4x4 29 Nov 2019 16:31 #204536

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Probably not,common ratio is 6.66.........anyway find which diff you have first.....It is very east to find #3 eatons with 6.16,its the 7/43 ratio used in commers and fords.....then IH 180s normally have 6.50,but all #3 eatons are swappable ,side gear splines are the same....anyway see whats happened first,just drain the oil for a start....The gears may be savable if the teeth havent broken.......seizing up and coming free is generally either total destruction of the diff ,or a seizure in a dry wheel bearing,which wrecks the hub and spindle...Drain the oil,burnt oil is unmistakeable.

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International 610a 4x4 29 Nov 2019 16:47 #204539

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Minor problems, at least you got home.
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International 610a 4x4 29 Nov 2019 17:24 #204542

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Lot of drivers forget with a 4x4 and rear diff problem,.you can just pull the axles and tailshaft and drive on the front axle.

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International 610a 4x4 29 Nov 2019 18:12 #204547

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At the time it didn’t seem to make any noise and I don’t know but I thought it was the front, I only picked it up at lunch......and I’ll remember your trick, there wasn’t much oil go all over, thinking it was a case of lack of lubricant...

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International 610a 4x4 29 Nov 2019 18:14 #204548

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At the time it didn’t seem to make any noise and I don’t know but I thought it was the front, I only picked it up at lunch......and I’ll remember your trick, there wasn’t much oil go all over, thinking it was a case of lack of lubricant..that ratio is 6-16

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International 610a 4x4 30 Nov 2019 13:37 #204565

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If you are lucky ,it might have just been the engine missing.......that makes it seem like the truck is dragging ,then takes off.......water in the tank is pretty common with parked up paddock trucks..........in my experience ,if smoke doesnt pour out and the whole thing smell like a housefire,there isnt much wrong with the axle........I remeber a brand new F model Mack that seized a wheel bearing,the heat melted the axle shaft ,and it lost drive just trying to turn around in the road......It was one of the Mack bogies that had no lockout .....the paint on the housing caught fire from the red heat,and the wheel bearings turned to gritty residue.....Fortunately ,being a Mack ,the wheel spindle was replaceable,and we pulled the wrecked one by simply welding a end on ,and driving it out from the opposite side with a long bar....

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