Gas on Diesel Conversions
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14 years 3 weeks ago #48543
by Rusty Engines
Gas on Diesel Conversions was created by Rusty Engines
Just been reading up on this sounds good is anybody out there using it
www.torquegas.com.au/html/diesel_conversions.html
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14 years 3 weeks ago #48544
by Malfunction
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Had a bit to do with testing of these, so many different variations and different fuels (even Banana's seriously). They all seem to deliver a lot more fuel and power so then you don't have to put the foot down as hard.
I like the idea of only the vapour being drawn into the engine of the LPG! When it is stored as a gas such as NG or for that matter the Bananas you won't have a problem. The Bananas from Innisfail gave a huge increase in power!
The other problem is with later engines are that clever they learn something is happening and change or remap their computers program to suit the extra fuel going in.
Emissions wise (wot i was testing) very minimal improvement sometimes other way especially if it was set up for maximom go.
Have heard a few "go" too. Very expensive rebuild for a long term investment.
Can get not quite as much bang for the buck by using the old bottle of water doing hydrogen fumigation. Have heard of one of them go bang as well, more so the bottle!
I like the idea of only the vapour being drawn into the engine of the LPG! When it is stored as a gas such as NG or for that matter the Bananas you won't have a problem. The Bananas from Innisfail gave a huge increase in power!
The other problem is with later engines are that clever they learn something is happening and change or remap their computers program to suit the extra fuel going in.
Emissions wise (wot i was testing) very minimal improvement sometimes other way especially if it was set up for maximom go.
Have heard a few "go" too. Very expensive rebuild for a long term investment.
Can get not quite as much bang for the buck by using the old bottle of water doing hydrogen fumigation. Have heard of one of them go bang as well, more so the bottle!
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14 years 3 weeks ago #48545
by ray
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For what it's worth, I am running a homemade hydrogen from water set up on my '63 Leyland bus and '77 Range Rover. Advantages with the bus are 10% better fuel consumption, 1/2 a gear better on hills plus reduced oil consumption and increased compression. On the Rangie it is around 10% better fuel consumption and smoother running. I have had one of the containers on the car go bang, but having a plastic lid that is all that needed replacing. I am just about to try it on a Landcruiser diesel and see how it goes.
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14 years 3 weeks ago - 14 years 3 weeks ago #48546
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Replied by Rusty Engines on topic Re: Gas on Diesel Conversions
'Bananas'
What was done to the bananas to turn them into a fuel?
Could we save some carbon tax here or would the red head call it a "banana tax'
Ian
What was done to the bananas to turn them into a fuel?
Could we save some carbon tax here or would the red head call it a "banana tax'

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14 years 3 weeks ago #48547
by V8Ian
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So would refering to them as monkey handles be considered tax avoidance?
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14 years 3 weeks ago #48548
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www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1769757.htm
another use for banana wast
hubpages.com/hub/Turning-Crete-Bananas-into-a-Green-Fuel
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Bananas wast is broken down to form methane gas'Bananas'
What was done to the bananas to turn them into a fuel?
Ian
www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1769757.htm
another use for banana wast
hubpages.com/hub/Turning-Crete-Bananas-into-a-Green-Fuel
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14 years 3 weeks ago - 14 years 3 weeks ago #48549
by Malfunction
Replied by Malfunction on topic Re: Gas on Diesel Conversions
Sorry not Innisfail but Tully.
Put the blemished banana skins and waste (about 30% of the normal crop ends up as this) in a bladder the size of a football field then compress the methane gas. (Found out recently, they bought the disused Gas plant from Carina Bus Depot) Pump it out into storage cylinders and put it in vehicles and generate electricity.
www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/04/2588807.htm?site=news
Just beat me to it Rusty!!
Put the blemished banana skins and waste (about 30% of the normal crop ends up as this) in a bladder the size of a football field then compress the methane gas. (Found out recently, they bought the disused Gas plant from Carina Bus Depot) Pump it out into storage cylinders and put it in vehicles and generate electricity.
www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/04/2588807.htm?site=news
Just beat me to it Rusty!!
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14 years 2 weeks ago #48550
by gilly
Replied by gilly on topic Re: Gas on Diesel Conversions
Hi,
Read the post on gas on diesels. As a gas technician with 20 yrs experience, have never considered putting it on my Cruiser or D4d 3.00 hi lux. Why, because no one can tell me where the point of ignition of the gas would occur. Gas can be a silent killer of an engine, & the only way to get some idea of what is going on in the combustion chamber, you must use a 5 Gas analyser on the exhaust to read what is coming out, particularly Nox to decide if the engine is under stress or not. Excessive combustion temp will soon destroy a piston, or at least put added stress on the top ring etc, so just be careful. Once invited to diagnose a V6 benz engine altered to run purely on LPG, all the testing showed great promise, so the hooked a gas tanker on it for a maiden voyage up the hume, guess what, under full throttle, big backfire, come home on a tow truck, never heard any more about it :
My thoughts, was it correct when it left the factory, one assumes so, so why tamper with it. A chip is cheaper for computer controlled engines.
Read the post on gas on diesels. As a gas technician with 20 yrs experience, have never considered putting it on my Cruiser or D4d 3.00 hi lux. Why, because no one can tell me where the point of ignition of the gas would occur. Gas can be a silent killer of an engine, & the only way to get some idea of what is going on in the combustion chamber, you must use a 5 Gas analyser on the exhaust to read what is coming out, particularly Nox to decide if the engine is under stress or not. Excessive combustion temp will soon destroy a piston, or at least put added stress on the top ring etc, so just be careful. Once invited to diagnose a V6 benz engine altered to run purely on LPG, all the testing showed great promise, so the hooked a gas tanker on it for a maiden voyage up the hume, guess what, under full throttle, big backfire, come home on a tow truck, never heard any more about it :


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14 years 2 weeks ago #48551
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A lot of forklifts and cars run on straight gas and have done so for many years with no problems
I know people with Yank tanks (USA Cars) that used to run on leaded petrol and the easiest way to keep the car running without engine mods was to convert to gas, I have heard on here where some of the older petrol trucks now run on gas
There was a post a little while back showing new trucks in WA running on Natural Gas? So it is done
It is the gas on diesel that I have never heard of before, I asked some drivers up my way and they don
I know people with Yank tanks (USA Cars) that used to run on leaded petrol and the easiest way to keep the car running without engine mods was to convert to gas, I have heard on here where some of the older petrol trucks now run on gas
There was a post a little while back showing new trucks in WA running on Natural Gas? So it is done
It is the gas on diesel that I have never heard of before, I asked some drivers up my way and they don
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14 years 2 weeks ago #48552
by greenie
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This stuff was tried out about twenty years ago, they had the gas hooked up, so it only came into play once you floored it. It gave a squirt down the inlet manifold and souped up the air ratio for a bigger bang, when and only when, you really needed it.
Saw it all hooked up to a 'loosly-built' with a Cummins 350 and being driven by a bloke I knew, he was up and down the Newelll for years with this jigger hooked up like this. His opinion was it was the ants pants, he said his fuel economy with the diesel/gas was bloody good. He used to park his truck in my backyard, when he was caught waiting for a load south.
Never heard any more about it until this post popped up.
regards greenie [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]
Saw it all hooked up to a 'loosly-built' with a Cummins 350 and being driven by a bloke I knew, he was up and down the Newelll for years with this jigger hooked up like this. His opinion was it was the ants pants, he said his fuel economy with the diesel/gas was bloody good. He used to park his truck in my backyard, when he was caught waiting for a load south.
Never heard any more about it until this post popped up.
regards greenie [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]
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