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The Tassie transport project
2 years 9 months ago - 2 years 9 months ago #230713
by daveus6
Our tspt scene was definitely a lot different to anywhere else.
Had to have a licence to operate, restricted to a small area ...payed the world to haul out of that area ... And to top it off ...were often competing with Gov owned railway or, at certain points in time, Gov owned road transport.
It's a very complex story ...but I'm having an absolute ball researching it at the moment .... To the point where I've almost stopped researching anything else :dry: :huh:
The Tassie transport project was created by daveus6
Werk, The Tassie transport project would be very interesting. A parallel tome about New Zealand's quaint and restrictive road transport history is 'Road's the Mode" by Jenny Haworth. Heavy going in parts of it's 320 pages though. Good luck with it.
Our tspt scene was definitely a lot different to anywhere else.
Had to have a licence to operate, restricted to a small area ...payed the world to haul out of that area ... And to top it off ...were often competing with Gov owned railway or, at certain points in time, Gov owned road transport.
It's a very complex story ...but I'm having an absolute ball researching it at the moment .... To the point where I've almost stopped researching anything else :dry: :huh:
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2 years 9 months ago #230714
by werkhorse
You might Laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all the same
Replied by werkhorse on topic The Tassie transport project
Well ....that's a bit freaky
I posted the above comment ... But it's come up as daveus6 ... :huh: :huh:
I posted the above comment ... But it's come up as daveus6 ... :huh: :huh:
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2 years 9 months ago #230730
by Mrsmackpaul
Your better to die trying than live on your knees begging
Replied by Mrsmackpaul on topic The Tassie transport project
See bugger is flogging your work before you've even done it now :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Paul
Paul
Your better to die trying than live on your knees begging
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2 years 9 months ago #230733
by V8Ian
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Replied by V8Ian on topic The Tassie transport project
Have you been vaxed?Well ....that's a bit freaky
I posted the above comment ... But it's come up as daveus6 ... :huh: :huh:
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2 years 9 months ago #230734
by hayseed
And You've Moved to Lithgow Too..... I'll let Terry explain that quirk for you Werk..lol
"Be who you are and say what you feel...
Because those that matter...
don't mind...
And those that mind....
don't matter." -
Replied by hayseed on topic The Tassie transport project
Well ....that's a bit freaky
I posted the above comment ... But it's come up as daveus6 ... :huh: :huh:
And You've Moved to Lithgow Too..... I'll let Terry explain that quirk for you Werk..lol
"Be who you are and say what you feel...
Because those that matter...
don't mind...
And those that mind....
don't matter." -
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2 years 9 months ago #230749
by werkhorse
You might Laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all the same
Replied by werkhorse on topic The Tassie transport project
MrsMack ..... I hear conspiracy ...their all out to get me :woohoo: :evil:
V8 ... Just waiting for my booster ...end of the month ... Maybe I'm lacking in something :silly: :woohoo:
Seed ... I've had trouble moving from the couch to the fridge over the break :whistle: :whistle: was struck down with a very bad case of CBF ...
V8 ... Just waiting for my booster ...end of the month ... Maybe I'm lacking in something :silly: :woohoo:
Seed ... I've had trouble moving from the couch to the fridge over the break :whistle: :whistle: was struck down with a very bad case of CBF ...
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2 years 9 months ago #230764
by asw120
“I offer my opponents a bargain: if they will stop telling lies about us, I will stop telling the truth about them”
― Adlai E. Stevenson II
Replied by asw120 on topic The Tassie transport project
CBF Ha ha! ( I've had a lot of it lately)
I'm gunna pinch that!
Jarrod.
I'm gunna pinch that!
Jarrod.
“I offer my opponents a bargain: if they will stop telling lies about us, I will stop telling the truth about them”
― Adlai E. Stevenson II
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2 years 9 months ago #230774
by werkhorse
You might Laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all the same
Replied by werkhorse on topic The Tassie transport project
Getting back to the original subject .... To operate a public vehicle (for hire or reward) in Tasmania you needed 3 separate plates as pictured ...the photo shows a pre 1953 set up ...1953 being the year we went from annually replaced number plates to permanent plates from general issue.
The big plate is the "general issue" plate issued to all vehicles ...this one being an August 1952 expiry
The 4 digit plate with Cart on the top was the licence to operate as a public vehicle ...in this case a cart licence allowed a vehicle to operate in one of the 8 areas set out by the Tasmanian Transport Commission who overseen the whole operation as well as ran the railways.
The little plate on the top right ... In this case showing the number 1 ... Was the base area the vehicle was allowed to operate.... And to operate outside this area cost a pretty penny ...of which said pennies were given straight to the railways to help them get close to not operating at a loss.
These areas were originally designed so that trucks (and busses) could really only legally operate as feeders to the local rail station ...
Then there were certain goods that were not allowed to be hauled by trucks at all (unless directly to the nearest railway station) ...not even within ones base area ... Wool being the most sacred of all.
As you can see ... It was surprising that we had a road transport industry at all under these regulations ... Which came into force from about 1925 and were finally ... After being slowly diluted through the 1980s and 90s ... Removed around the year 2000.
I'll keep dropping some sort NFI in here as I go ...and it'll be some basic stuff ... Just to keep you guys in the loop
Cheers
Werk
The big plate is the "general issue" plate issued to all vehicles ...this one being an August 1952 expiry
The 4 digit plate with Cart on the top was the licence to operate as a public vehicle ...in this case a cart licence allowed a vehicle to operate in one of the 8 areas set out by the Tasmanian Transport Commission who overseen the whole operation as well as ran the railways.
The little plate on the top right ... In this case showing the number 1 ... Was the base area the vehicle was allowed to operate.... And to operate outside this area cost a pretty penny ...of which said pennies were given straight to the railways to help them get close to not operating at a loss.
These areas were originally designed so that trucks (and busses) could really only legally operate as feeders to the local rail station ...
Then there were certain goods that were not allowed to be hauled by trucks at all (unless directly to the nearest railway station) ...not even within ones base area ... Wool being the most sacred of all.
As you can see ... It was surprising that we had a road transport industry at all under these regulations ... Which came into force from about 1925 and were finally ... After being slowly diluted through the 1980s and 90s ... Removed around the year 2000.
I'll keep dropping some sort NFI in here as I go ...and it'll be some basic stuff ... Just to keep you guys in the loop
Cheers
Werk
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2 years 9 months ago #230776
by werkhorse
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Replied by werkhorse on topic The Tassie transport project
Oh ...I forgot to add to the Cart bit that there were several types of licence to operate.
Cart = within the base area
Carrier = for a certain route (allowed through multiple areas if needed) with designated pick up and drop off points
Ancy = Ancillary - for operators who haul their own goods ..think bakers, builders etc.
Coach = passenger version of Carrier
Omnibus = passenger version of Cart
Cart = within the base area
Carrier = for a certain route (allowed through multiple areas if needed) with designated pick up and drop off points
Ancy = Ancillary - for operators who haul their own goods ..think bakers, builders etc.
Coach = passenger version of Carrier
Omnibus = passenger version of Cart
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2 years 9 months ago #230820
by Brocky45
Replied by Brocky45 on topic The Tassie transport project
Werk, Thank you for this interesting information..
Sounds like your railroad commission was in tight with the government, even worse than they were up here in the States.
Sounds like your railroad commission was in tight with the government, even worse than they were up here in the States.
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