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A compromise has been reached
8 years 10 months ago #159954
by rex
Making a small effort to save the history of road transport in Australia by being in front of Simms
Replied by rex on topic Re: A compromise has been reached
Hayseed, From my understanding there is some of the technology from the Detroit in the 6 cylinder Benz engine. to what extent I have no idea, Daimler own both so why not share some of the hard work. We have two Freightliners 112s at least I think that is the model, 450 Detroit's, the ones that keep the oil inside, so much so we get 40,000 Kms between changes and no top ups, great little Trucks.
To design an engine now and get every thing right is very expensive, as we move on more and more mergers / takeovers will occur, survival will be the dictator.
In my humble opinion we have reached a pinnacle in the power race, 700 HP engines might be nice for the driver, not so good for the owner. We need large power for the work we do, but I am starting to ask myself do we need 700 HP, well while I am not sure it is starting to look more likely no we do not.
The Mercedes are 600 HP 2800 nm Volvo's 700 HP 3300 nm, On the same work both with 295/80 22.5 Michelin multi D tyres, the difference in Tyre wear is significant, both Trucks finish the job with the same amount of man hours.
On the other hand sometimes we need 700 HP and it can be handy, however it probably explains why we have more Mercedes 600 HP than Volvo 700HP, just a matter of having the right balance.
The future Trucks, well at least within the next 25 Years in my opinion, will be small lightweight Diesel engines, possibly 250 HP driving a Generator, the wheels will be driven by Electric motors.
Just before you have your two bobs worth about my little bit of looking into the future, the Railways went from Steam to Diesel 60 odd years ago, the Diesel engines drove a Generator, the wheels turned because they had an Electric motor connected.
Trains hook up to Wagons, we prefer to say we hook up to Trailers, however you look at it we load them up and get the job done.
Rex
To design an engine now and get every thing right is very expensive, as we move on more and more mergers / takeovers will occur, survival will be the dictator.
In my humble opinion we have reached a pinnacle in the power race, 700 HP engines might be nice for the driver, not so good for the owner. We need large power for the work we do, but I am starting to ask myself do we need 700 HP, well while I am not sure it is starting to look more likely no we do not.
The Mercedes are 600 HP 2800 nm Volvo's 700 HP 3300 nm, On the same work both with 295/80 22.5 Michelin multi D tyres, the difference in Tyre wear is significant, both Trucks finish the job with the same amount of man hours.
On the other hand sometimes we need 700 HP and it can be handy, however it probably explains why we have more Mercedes 600 HP than Volvo 700HP, just a matter of having the right balance.
The future Trucks, well at least within the next 25 Years in my opinion, will be small lightweight Diesel engines, possibly 250 HP driving a Generator, the wheels will be driven by Electric motors.
Just before you have your two bobs worth about my little bit of looking into the future, the Railways went from Steam to Diesel 60 odd years ago, the Diesel engines drove a Generator, the wheels turned because they had an Electric motor connected.
Trains hook up to Wagons, we prefer to say we hook up to Trailers, however you look at it we load them up and get the job done.
Rex
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8 years 10 months ago #159955
by Giddy up Go
"Gotta long way to go and a short time to get there....."
Replied by Giddy up Go on topic Re: A compromise has been reached
...Ha,ha, you just made my day 'Seed'...good one. That 'tin mine hill' one of the first sections my Dad gave me a 'steer' as a boy...com'in back relatively heavy,as you know only hill out there (that's why I was driving )...sweaty palm on the gear knob gett'in ready,revs dropping 'fairly' quickly....Wallenbeen was a good one...head out the window watch'in wheel nuts go round...
"Gotta long way to go and a short time to get there....."
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8 years 10 months ago #159956
by Swishy
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
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OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
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8 years 10 months ago #159957
by Cunning Stunt
Some play hard to get
Replied by Cunning Stunt on topic Re: A compromise has been reached
That whole combination looks awesome Giddy, but that trailer!!! How straight is it!!!
Some play hard to get
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8 years 10 months ago - 8 years 10 months ago #159958
by Swishy
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
Replied by Swishy on topic Re: A compromise has been reached
ReX
M8
bin bizzy ........ sauce n out paint
Look n fir sum GM/Detroit Alpine Green
the only way to inject sum life in the beast
iz wiff the dulux reco of donk
LOL
Feel sorry 4 U
az wen a beast fails 2 proceed U need all the words to deal wiff it
U may ..... or all ready have found all the cuz wordz
in German n Swedish 2 deal wiff U're lorriez
them beast listen n nose wot u're say n
LOL
@ the mo me box browny iz away get n nu points n plugz
Pix will B sum time off az me gotta sauce out a nu film from Kodak n C hoo can develop it
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSOoEi0i4wcdWbyUZevSm129Kz05YP2sqN2Ei2yTZWLaE7sYckoU-9a_Q
We will C wot develops
LOL
cya
M8
bin bizzy ........ sauce n out paint
Look n fir sum GM/Detroit Alpine Green
the only way to inject sum life in the beast
iz wiff the dulux reco of donk
LOL
Feel sorry 4 U
az wen a beast fails 2 proceed U need all the words to deal wiff it
U may ..... or all ready have found all the cuz wordz
in German n Swedish 2 deal wiff U're lorriez
them beast listen n nose wot u're say n
LOL
@ the mo me box browny iz away get n nu points n plugz
Pix will B sum time off az me gotta sauce out a nu film from Kodak n C hoo can develop it
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSOoEi0i4wcdWbyUZevSm129Kz05YP2sqN2Ei2yTZWLaE7sYckoU-9a_Q
We will C wot develops
LOL
cya
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
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8 years 10 months ago #159959
by rex
Making a small effort to save the history of road transport in Australia by being in front of Simms
Replied by rex on topic Re: A compromise has been reached
Swishy mate
Stop stalling, the World is waiting for the 2010 Mack.
I find it hard to understand why, just the right shade of Alpine Green is so important. Within a week after you paint it no one can see the Green, Engine smothered in greasy Black oil.
If the delay is due to Camera problems, I have a lovely little Leica you can borrow.
Rex
Stop stalling, the World is waiting for the 2010 Mack.
I find it hard to understand why, just the right shade of Alpine Green is so important. Within a week after you paint it no one can see the Green, Engine smothered in greasy Black oil.
If the delay is due to Camera problems, I have a lovely little Leica you can borrow.
Rex
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8 years 10 months ago #159960
by geoffb
Replied by geoffb on topic Re: A compromise has been reached
SWishy
Did you get edited
Did you get edited
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8 years 10 months ago #159961
by Swishy
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
Replied by Swishy on topic Re: A compromise has been reached
YUP
Not only but all so rubd out
LOL
cya
Not only but all so rubd out
LOL
cya
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
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8 years 10 months ago #159962
by geoffb
Replied by geoffb on topic Re: A compromise has been reached
No sense pf humour I was nearly not offended
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8 years 10 months ago #159963
by rex
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Replied by rex on topic Re: A compromise has been reached
Swishy mate
Have you been naughty ?
Rex
Have you been naughty ?
Rex
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