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11 years 3 months ago #104283
by Roderick Smith
Road-Rail Western Star was created by Roderick Smith
This was a 1990s experiment which failed.
The idea was for something smaller and cheaper than a fully-fledged locomotive, capable of moving small rakes, and transferring by road to a different work location. That was the sort of need which didn't exist.
The unit langished for several years, then was offerered for sale.
People in this forum commented on the voluminous paperwork which formed the contract of sale: nothing like the contract for the sale of a pure truck.
I don't know if the purchase did proceed, or what has happened to the unit.
It was coded RTL1.
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor
The idea was for something smaller and cheaper than a fully-fledged locomotive, capable of moving small rakes, and transferring by road to a different work location. That was the sort of need which didn't exist.
The unit langished for several years, then was offerered for sale.
People in this forum commented on the voluminous paperwork which formed the contract of sale: nothing like the contract for the sale of a pure truck.
I don't know if the purchase did proceed, or what has happened to the unit.
It was coded RTL1.
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor
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11 years 3 months ago #104284
by steveb
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This unit was used to pull timber freight from Bairnsdale to Geelong,once a day with 3(I think) freight wagons when the Bairnsdale line was reopened before passenger trains were allowed back on the line.Used to watch it going through Fernbank,going south in the mornings when putting the kids on the school bus.Was fascinated by it as I had just mooved down south after driving roadtrains up north.
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11 years 3 months ago #104285
by Battleduck
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I remember seeing it crossing the Princes Highway near Rosedale in the late 90's with a rake of 5 wagons and moving at a fair speed. I know passenger trains weren't running then so it took me by surprise when I saw the crossing lights going and this beast bouncing down the rails.
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11 years 3 months ago #104286
by Roderick Smith
Replied by Roderick Smith on topic Re: Road-Rail Western Star
I will have to consult notes in my own magazine.
IIRC the log traffic was the only revenue job it ever did, but no further west than Traralgon, where the wagons were transferred to a freight train with other loading.
It was tested with grain wagons on the Shepparton - Dookie line before commissioning, but was never used for mini rakes of grain anywhere.
It was used to place wagons being stored on the then-disused Ballarat - Ararat line (since cleared and reactivated).
As a machine, it worked. IIRC the Dookie test loaded it to the point of slipping.
The Bairnsdale task became redundant when the line was reopened for loco-hauled freight trains. There was no other task.
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor
IIRC the log traffic was the only revenue job it ever did, but no further west than Traralgon, where the wagons were transferred to a freight train with other loading.
It was tested with grain wagons on the Shepparton - Dookie line before commissioning, but was never used for mini rakes of grain anywhere.
It was used to place wagons being stored on the then-disused Ballarat - Ararat line (since cleared and reactivated).
As a machine, it worked. IIRC the Dookie test loaded it to the point of slipping.
The Bairnsdale task became redundant when the line was reopened for loco-hauled freight trains. There was no other task.
Roderick B Smith
Rail News Victoria Editor
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10 years 11 months ago #104287
by Kenworth_10x6
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10 years 11 months ago #104289
by 67mustang
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Gents
If you need any more info let me know, my mates driver actually drove it up and down the line
67mustang
If you need any more info let me know, my mates driver actually drove it up and down the line
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10 years 11 months ago #104290
by Bruce99
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Hi Mustang,
Did it have an Allison in it or RR?
Did it have an Allison in it or RR?
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10 years 11 months ago #104291
by 67mustang
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Bruce
Just spoke to Alan it had Allison with a Detroit the problem with it was when it rained they couldn't get any traction
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Just spoke to Alan it had Allison with a Detroit the problem with it was when it rained they couldn't get any traction
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10 years 11 months ago #104292
by bparo
Having lived through a pandemic I now understand all the painting of fat people on couches!
Replied by bparo on topic Re: Road-Rail Western Star
Were the traction problems due to its relatively light weight (by rail standards) or the the detroit spraying the damp rails with oil?
Having lived through a pandemic I now understand all the painting of fat people on couches!
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