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3 years 6 months ago #225731
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3 years 6 months ago #225732
by Mrsmackpaul
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Im watching and learning still, will wait and see what happens next
Keep it coming grandad
Paul
Keep it coming grandad
Paul
Your better to die trying than live on your knees begging
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3 years 6 months ago #225733
by wee-allis
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Grandad. you must have the most understanding partner. Not only on the kitchen table, but on the table cloth! That one is definitely a keeper.
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3 years 6 months ago #225747
by cobbadog
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Beautiful work adapting the sprocket to the crown wheel. It looks like it belongs there. Nice work Garandad
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3 years 6 months ago #225755
by grandad
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Well, here's the finished article, not very pretty but it was only made to illustrate the Thomas method of dividing the power from the engine and sending it along two paths to the wheels.
You can see the drive going into the top diff, with the left hand drive shaft turning the generator and the right hand drive shaft driving the right hand wheel via a chain. The motor on the lower diff has a square end on the armature where the brake was fitted, initially I was going to fix the chain drive to that but the diff ratio is so low and easy to turn that the upper diff would have had nothing to work against to drive the generator fast enough, so I figured if I took the chain drive to the wheel it would give it the resistance it needed. When it was going I could stand on the frame and it would carry me around on a paved area, I was quite pleased with it.
Here's a pic of the contraption today, it's a bit dirty as I made it back in 2008, the year before the missus was diagnosed and it's been in the shed ever since.
Here's the switches to connect the generator to the motor.
Here's how it works, with the engine running the right hand wheel holds the right hand drive shaft still, so the diff turns the left shaft twice as fast, spinning the generator freely. When the generator is connected to the motor via the switches, two things happen.Whilst trying to move the machine the motor on the axle draws current from the generator making it act as a brake on the left drive shaft, causing the diff to start transferring torque to the other drive shaft and turning the right hand wheel.
If you imagine the pic of the old truck I put up at the beginning, the power from the right hand side of the top diff would go via the chain to the truck, and the current from the generator driven from the left side would go to the trailers. If the truck slowed down the generator would speed up to power the trailers more to help the truck pick up speed.
Think I've got it right, hope so.
Wee-Allis, you were spot on.
You can see the drive going into the top diff, with the left hand drive shaft turning the generator and the right hand drive shaft driving the right hand wheel via a chain. The motor on the lower diff has a square end on the armature where the brake was fitted, initially I was going to fix the chain drive to that but the diff ratio is so low and easy to turn that the upper diff would have had nothing to work against to drive the generator fast enough, so I figured if I took the chain drive to the wheel it would give it the resistance it needed. When it was going I could stand on the frame and it would carry me around on a paved area, I was quite pleased with it.
Here's a pic of the contraption today, it's a bit dirty as I made it back in 2008, the year before the missus was diagnosed and it's been in the shed ever since.
Here's the switches to connect the generator to the motor.
Here's how it works, with the engine running the right hand wheel holds the right hand drive shaft still, so the diff turns the left shaft twice as fast, spinning the generator freely. When the generator is connected to the motor via the switches, two things happen.Whilst trying to move the machine the motor on the axle draws current from the generator making it act as a brake on the left drive shaft, causing the diff to start transferring torque to the other drive shaft and turning the right hand wheel.
If you imagine the pic of the old truck I put up at the beginning, the power from the right hand side of the top diff would go via the chain to the truck, and the current from the generator driven from the left side would go to the trailers. If the truck slowed down the generator would speed up to power the trailers more to help the truck pick up speed.
Think I've got it right, hope so.
Wee-Allis, you were spot on.
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3 years 6 months ago #225767
by cobbadog
Cheers Cobba & Cobbarette
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Now I regret missing all those days at school!
I sort of understand what and how it is working and you have made a great job of building it and it is well explained, thank you.
I sort of understand what and how it is working and you have made a great job of building it and it is well explained, thank you.
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3 years 6 months ago #225781
by grandad
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Here's another application of the transmission, this time in an RM class railcar of the New Zealand Railways in 1916.
It was powered by a Tylor 200hp V8 driving the front bogie mechanically and the rear bogie electrically using a Thomas transmission.
Maybe Roderick can shed a bit more light on it?
Looks a fair size engine
I like the fire extinguisher
It was powered by a Tylor 200hp V8 driving the front bogie mechanically and the rear bogie electrically using a Thomas transmission.
Maybe Roderick can shed a bit more light on it?
Looks a fair size engine
I like the fire extinguisher
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3 years 6 months ago #225782
by Mrsmackpaul
Your better to die trying than live on your knees begging
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Well I have certainly been educated here, have never heard of such a thing before, it makes sense to me
Thanks for that grandad
Paul
Thanks for that grandad
Paul
Your better to die trying than live on your knees begging
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