Use of dogs and chains

Yeh Greenie, I never heard of anyone losing any either, must have been all the carefull operators in those days eh?

Reminds me of when I worked for TNT and they in turn subbied for QRX. Used to pick up rolls of news paper from Hamilton wharf. One chain each end in a vee, then your others in between them over the top of the load (only 10mm transport chain) and blocks on the front and back roll. Drive very carefully.

A few steel trailers in Brisbane have 75 X 75 Rhs low head boards weded to the front of the trailer to stop this sort of thing.

Hoy, Cam, what's wrong with that ?

Used to load about 30/35 ton of paper that way, from the old wool sheds at Hedly Rd Hendra, over to the cardboard mob at West End.
An old Transtar DCF with a tri axle steel deck, a little Cummins, about 290 I think, with two rows high of rolls, and boy, she used to bellow going thru the CBD.
Only two chains required and a couple of tapered wooden chocks, under the front and back roll, held in place with only telecom rope. :

Didn't loose any that I new of !

regards greenie [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]

Lets be honest no one takes responsibility for their own actions or stupidty So we have 90% of laws and rules for the minority of the population who are **ck Heads
But that just my opinion

It's the statistics that kill you in the end! I worked briefly as an OH&S manager for an organization with 2500 employees and found that out pretty quick. For example you and I might look at the chance of getting injured by an old style dog as 1 in a 1000 and think its a risk worth taking. But if you are employing 250 blokes and they are all using 4 dogs per load per day pretty quick the statistics add up to say you are having one accident reported every day. Then the poor OH&S manager is getting grilled by his boss as to why the workers comp bill is so high and pretty quick it's decided "no more dogs". :-[

Being an OH&S man is a thankless task. While I was doing the job someone complained about the tiles in the entrance to the office being slippery when it rained. We did a full assessment, got in a specialist advisor on non- slip surfaces and eventually opted for a very expensive anti- slip map in the entrance. A few days after the mat was put down my OH&S advisor was coming into the building and tripped on the edge of the mat breaking her pelvis, her arm and dislocating her shoulder last I heard it looked like she was never going to get back to work because of complications with her broken pelvis. Despite all the best intentions manure happens

Lets face it .. lack of training, lack of understanding, lack of ability, and lack of common sense .. will never be cured by the constant application of more and more, and increasingly restrictive OH&S laws.

There are too many people around who can damage themselves seriously with a rubber sword. These are the people that ever-tightening OH&S laws seek to stop injuring and killing themselves.
It will never stop them. The Yanks have a good saying that sums it up .. "Ya cain't fix stoopid!" :

I can understand youngsters with a lack of awareness getting into trouble .. and that's why they need intense supervision, until you are satisfied that they have a grasp of the important principles and all the things to watch out for.

However, it never ceases to amaze me the number of older blokes who wipe themselves out with carelessness, and stupidity. Complacency must pay a big part here, but some people are always an accident looking for a place to happen.

I once had a dozer operator employee who was always managing to damage equipment, have accidents (mostly minor, thank goodness), and generally be a walking disaster.
His often-used comment was .. "I wasn't aware (that xxxx could happen)". Lack of awareness summed him right up. It didn't help that he liked a puff of weed on regular occasions.
He didn't stay for too long in my employ, he wasn't worth the effort.

and that , gentlemen ,after being in business for 25 years, and at the ripe old age of 52, all of the above is the reason i have decided to do it all meself.

after a days slog painting trucks i come home physically more tired but mentally as free as a bird

i fell over a hurdle and found out i was better off

cheers

Hi, yep your rite, but even if you do know what your doing with these cam over binders they will hurt, how ever even if you do know what your doing they are more touchy than the ratchet ones. i dont have a problem with either, but after use of the ratchet ones they are safer.

Grant

i spoke to a bloke this morning...a bloke who has operated trucks for many many years..
He would have forgotten more about dogs and chains than half of us would ever learn..
Not being against change, he had 'moved over' to 'ratchet' type dogs..
Seems they are not beyond pulling the threads out of the body when under load....

He is in the process of returning to 'normal' dogs as the freight is required to be on the trailer when he reaches point of delivery...
Adequate training and a common sense approach is required at all times

stay safe

chocs

Hopefully one day the bureaucrat's will learn that you cant legelislate against acidents : Besides what ever hapened to Darwins thearoy of evoloution (said with toung firmly implanted i cheek) Ill bet ol mate in the KW knows how to secure a load now, an if he forgets he'll have the blister on the driver seat to remind him before he startys off.

Local Earth-mover bloke I worked for for a few years doesn't use dogs at all. To chain down his back-hoe, he drops some air out of the tyres, hangs the chains in place, and pumps the tyres back up. Takes close to the same time, with lots less sweat on the brow. Seems he was pretty much forced into finding another way when he had a shoulder injury, and just kept on doing it.

Used to love watching some undo dogs with a cheater bar (Exhaust tubing?) & letting go of it to see how high the sucker would fly.
No, not me sir!