- Posts: 79
- Thank you received: 0
Help ID this motor.
12 years 10 months ago #53591
by insomniac
Help ID this motor. was created by insomniac
Looking for ideas to help ID an old engine.
Details skimpy so far we have.
Four cylinder /Water Cooled / twin ignition /two plugs for every pot.
Some photos available to morrow but not online so PM only availaible at this time.
Suggestions so far include: It may be aircraft /is old/ could be tiger moth /possibly looks like STOWER some one thinks ??/
May have been fitted to ww1 ambulances/military vehicles.
[ ] Strange thing if your fighting the German military at the time.
I won`t see it personally just doing Inet research for people in NSW.
Help is appreciated from all sources.
DieselDaveDevito
Details skimpy so far we have.
Four cylinder /Water Cooled / twin ignition /two plugs for every pot.
Some photos available to morrow but not online so PM only availaible at this time.
Suggestions so far include: It may be aircraft /is old/ could be tiger moth /possibly looks like STOWER some one thinks ??/
May have been fitted to ww1 ambulances/military vehicles.
[ ] Strange thing if your fighting the German military at the time.
I won`t see it personally just doing Inet research for people in NSW.
Help is appreciated from all sources.
DieselDaveDevito
Please Log in to join the conversation.
12 years 10 months ago #53592
by Bugly
My Dennis engine is like that!
1948 Fordson E83W 10/10 pickup
Replied by Bugly on topic Re: Help ID this motor.
Four cylinder /Water Cooled / twin ignition /two plugs for every pot
My Dennis engine is like that!
1948 Fordson E83W 10/10 pickup
Please Log in to join the conversation.
12 years 10 months ago #53593
by insomniac
Replied by insomniac on topic Re: Help ID this motor.
Ok Cool have you some pics or a link so I can compare it with the photos tomorrow?.
I will appreciate that>
DDD
I will appreciate that>
DDD
Please Log in to join the conversation.
12 years 10 months ago #53594
by Bugly
Right quarter
1948 Fordson E83W 10/10 pickup
Replied by Bugly on topic Re: Help ID this motor.
Ok Cool have you some pics or a link so I can compare it with the photos tomorrow?.
I will appreciate that>
DDD
Right quarter
1948 Fordson E83W 10/10 pickup
Please Log in to join the conversation.
12 years 10 months ago - 12 years 10 months ago #53595
by
Replied by on topic Re: Help ID this motor.
Forget the Tiger Moth engine, stab-in-the-dark. The De Havilland Gipsy Major engine is a 4 cyl, air-cooled, inverted engine, with a dry sump.
Not many people know the Tiger Moth engine was built using quite a number of remnant parts from a WW1 Renault, air-cooled V8.
Neither do many people know that GMH built sizeable numbers of the Gipsy Major engines (during WW2).
Not many aircraft engines were water-cooled, particularly early engines. The largest majority were air-cooled, because weight saving was important, and because air-cooled engines are simpler engines with less moving parts. Onto the next guess.
The early Dennis fire trucks used a White & Poppe, twin spark plug engine. Dennis purchased W & P in 1919.
I'd guess the later Dennis engines were an original W & P modified engine .. or Dennis designed and built their own engines, based on W & P design, after the early 1920's.
There are not that many twin-spark engines around .. Nash is the best known .. but the Nash engines were 6 and 8 cylinder.
Find out if the engine has separate cylinder jugs or is a monobloc. This will give a better idea of age.
Gipsy Major engine .. museumvictoria.com.au/collections/items/...s-ii-tiger-moth-1939
Veteran Dennis fire truck (great pic of engine here) .. www.dennisfire.co.uk/P14.htm
Not many people know the Tiger Moth engine was built using quite a number of remnant parts from a WW1 Renault, air-cooled V8.
Neither do many people know that GMH built sizeable numbers of the Gipsy Major engines (during WW2).
Not many aircraft engines were water-cooled, particularly early engines. The largest majority were air-cooled, because weight saving was important, and because air-cooled engines are simpler engines with less moving parts. Onto the next guess.
The early Dennis fire trucks used a White & Poppe, twin spark plug engine. Dennis purchased W & P in 1919.
I'd guess the later Dennis engines were an original W & P modified engine .. or Dennis designed and built their own engines, based on W & P design, after the early 1920's.
There are not that many twin-spark engines around .. Nash is the best known .. but the Nash engines were 6 and 8 cylinder.
Find out if the engine has separate cylinder jugs or is a monobloc. This will give a better idea of age.
Gipsy Major engine .. museumvictoria.com.au/collections/items/...s-ii-tiger-moth-1939
Veteran Dennis fire truck (great pic of engine here) .. www.dennisfire.co.uk/P14.htm
Please Log in to join the conversation.
12 years 10 months ago #53596
by melonreo
<a href=" s47.photobucket.com/albums/f174/melonreot/?action=view
Replied by melonreo on topic Re: Help ID this motor.
it actually took a long time to phase out the air cooled radial engine , the war department were happy with the fact that a pratt-whitney 18 cylinder radial could limp home with 2 barrels shot off.it only takes 1 bullit hole in a water cooled system and she is all over in a matter of minutes...sorry to get off topic
<a href=" s47.photobucket.com/albums/f174/melonreot/?action=view
Please Log in to join the conversation.
12 years 10 months ago #53597
by insomniac
Replied by insomniac on topic Re: Help ID this motor.
Ok Great stuff people this will get the blokes thinking on the right track for sure.
The Dennis English page has a lot of stuff ---sorry I did not book mark it.
But those motor pics are the best I have seen anywhere .
That Cat Avatar ! . What is it.
Always take an interest in old dozers---put in a couple of thousand hrs on a fiat C 80 or some such number once.
About D5 size 80 hp and the dam hand clutch works opposite to cats and everything else.
Takes a bit of clear thinking on the first couple of days not to run over things lolol.
Just gotta admire the comment about a couple of barrells shot off
oh yeahhhh!!!.
DDD.
--
Live as if you were to die tomorrow, Learn as if you were to live forever.
The Dennis English page has a lot of stuff ---sorry I did not book mark it.
But those motor pics are the best I have seen anywhere .
That Cat Avatar ! . What is it.
Always take an interest in old dozers---put in a couple of thousand hrs on a fiat C 80 or some such number once.
About D5 size 80 hp and the dam hand clutch works opposite to cats and everything else.
Takes a bit of clear thinking on the first couple of days not to run over things lolol.
Just gotta admire the comment about a couple of barrells shot off
oh yeahhhh!!!.
DDD.
--
Live as if you were to die tomorrow, Learn as if you were to live forever.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
12 years 10 months ago #53598
by
Replied by on topic Re: Help ID this motor.
The Stower engine guess is also pretty wild. I can find nothing on the Stower Car Co whatsoever, and only one pic of a 1913/14 model on the State Library of Victoria website.
www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictures/gid/slv-pic-aaa38435/1/pi000554
Here's another guess .. at least it has twin-spark ignition! 1912 Chalmers ..
www.autobanter.com/attachment.php?s=18ee...=114486&d=1200728238
www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictures/gid/slv-pic-aaa38435/1/pi000554
Here's another guess .. at least it has twin-spark ignition! 1912 Chalmers ..
www.autobanter.com/attachment.php?s=18ee...=114486&d=1200728238
Please Log in to join the conversation.
12 years 10 months ago #53599
by insomniac
Here`s a stoewer link.
Don`t know if its live/clickable or not.
But a copy and paste will do it.
Leads to quite a few other photos as well.
Has a chioce of either english or deutsch translations [mit already].
sorry couldnt help that I know a lot of people in the barrossa valley in sa.
www.stoewer-museum.de/ .
Thanks heaps all .
DDD.
Replied by insomniac on topic Re: Help ID this motor.
Here`s a stoewer link.
Don`t know if its live/clickable or not.
But a copy and paste will do it.
Leads to quite a few other photos as well.
Has a chioce of either english or deutsch translations [mit already].
sorry couldnt help that I know a lot of people in the barrossa valley in sa.
www.stoewer-museum.de/ .
Thanks heaps all .
DDD.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
12 years 10 months ago #53600
by insomniac
Chalmers link guys n gals.
Google "Chalmers Engine", but make sure you have the WOT extension in your browser as some links are spammy. {red}.
For the WOT "WebOfTrust" add on for your browser Google "WOT".
Used it for years and very reliable info before you open a web link.
www.conceptcarz.com/view/model/937/Chalmers.aspx
DDD.
--
My home ground: :-X
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition+SP1. Intel core 2 Quad CPU Q9505 @ 2.83 GHz 2.83 GHz Installed Memory 8.00 GB. System Type 64 bit OS. Drive 1 Kingston SSDNow V series 128 ATA Device. Drive 2 ST3500418AS ATA Slave Drive. Drive 3 WD 5000AAC External USB Backup Drive. Video NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT Display 1 Viewsonic VA2213w Series. Display 2 LG Flatron W2442 PA
P4 Pentium Linux Ubuntu 10.10.
Replied by insomniac on topic Re: Help ID this motor.
Chalmers link guys n gals.
Google "Chalmers Engine", but make sure you have the WOT extension in your browser as some links are spammy. {red}.
For the WOT "WebOfTrust" add on for your browser Google "WOT".
Used it for years and very reliable info before you open a web link.
www.conceptcarz.com/view/model/937/Chalmers.aspx
DDD.
--
My home ground: :-X
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition+SP1. Intel core 2 Quad CPU Q9505 @ 2.83 GHz 2.83 GHz Installed Memory 8.00 GB. System Type 64 bit OS. Drive 1 Kingston SSDNow V series 128 ATA Device. Drive 2 ST3500418AS ATA Slave Drive. Drive 3 WD 5000AAC External USB Backup Drive. Video NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT Display 1 Viewsonic VA2213w Series. Display 2 LG Flatron W2442 PA
P4 Pentium Linux Ubuntu 10.10.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
Time to create page: 0.483 seconds