Help ID this motor.

Looking for ideas to help ID an old engine.
Details skimpy so far we have.
Four cylinder /Water Cooled / twin ignition /two plugs for every pot.
Some photos available to morrow but not online so PM only availaible at this time.

Suggestions so far include: It may be aircraft /is old/ could be tiger moth /possibly looks like STOWER some one thinks ??/
May have been fitted to ww1 ambulances/military vehicles.
[ ] Strange thing if your fighting the German military at the time.

I won`t see it personally just doing Inet research for people in NSW.
Help is appreciated from all sources.

DieselDaveDevito

Four cylinder /Water Cooled / twin ignition /two plugs for every pot

My Dennis engine is like that!

Ok Cool have you some pics or a link so I can compare it with the photos tomorrow?.
I will appreciate that>

DDD

Ok Cool have you some pics or a link so I can compare it with the photos tomorrow?.
I will appreciate that>

DDD

Right quarter

Forget the Tiger Moth engine, stab-in-the-dark. The De Havilland Gipsy Major engine is a 4 cyl, air-cooled, inverted engine, with a dry sump.
Not many people know the Tiger Moth engine was built using quite a number of remnant parts from a WW1 Renault, air-cooled V8.
Neither do many people know that GMH built sizeable numbers of the Gipsy Major engines (during WW2).

Not many aircraft engines were water-cooled, particularly early engines. The largest majority were air-cooled, because weight saving was important, and because air-cooled engines are simpler engines with less moving parts. Onto the next guess.

The early Dennis fire trucks used a White & Poppe, twin spark plug engine. Dennis purchased W & P in 1919.
I'd guess the later Dennis engines were an original W & P modified engine .. or Dennis designed and built their own engines, based on W & P design, after the early 1920's.
There are not that many twin-spark engines around .. Nash is the best known .. but the Nash engines were 6 and 8 cylinder.
Find out if the engine has separate cylinder jugs or is a monobloc. This will give a better idea of age.

Gipsy Major engine .. museumvictoria.com.au/collections/items/...s-ii-tiger-moth-1939

Veteran Dennis fire truck (great pic of engine here) .. www.dennisfire.co.uk/P14.htm

it actually took a long time to phase out the air cooled radial engine , the war department were happy with the fact that a pratt-whitney 18 cylinder radial could limp home with 2 barrels shot off.it only takes 1 bullit hole in a water cooled system and she is all over in a matter of minutes...sorry to get off topic

Ok Great stuff people this will get the blokes thinking on the right track for sure.

The Dennis English page has a lot of stuff ---sorry I did not book mark it.
But those motor pics are the best I have seen anywhere .

That Cat Avatar ! . What is it.
Always take an interest in old dozers---put in a couple of thousand hrs on a fiat C 80 or some such number once.
About D5 size 80 hp and the dam hand clutch works opposite to cats and everything else.
Takes a bit of clear thinking on the first couple of days not to run over things lolol.

Just gotta admire the comment about a couple of barrells shot off

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oh yeahhhh!!!.
DDD.
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The Stower engine guess is also pretty wild. I can find nothing on the Stower Car Co whatsoever, and only one pic of a 1913/14 model on the State Library of Victoria website.

www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictures/gid/slv-pic-aaa38435/1/pi000554

Here's another guess .. at least it has twin-spark ignition! 1912 Chalmers ..

www.autobanter.com/attachment.php?s=18ee...=114486&d=1200728238

Here`s a stoewer link.
Don`t know if its live/clickable or not.
But a copy and paste will do it.
Leads to quite a few other photos as well.
Has a chioce of either english or deutsch translations [mit already].
sorry couldnt help that I know a lot of people in the barrossa valley in sa.

www.stoewer-museum.de/ .

Thanks heaps all .
DDD.

Chalmers link guys n gals.
Google "Chalmers Engine", but make sure you have the WOT extension in your browser as some links are spammy. {red}.
For the WOT "WebOfTrust" add on for your browser Google "WOT".
Used it for years and very reliable info before you open a web link.

www.conceptcarz.com/view/model/937/Chalmers.aspx

DDD.
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