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Elect tricky stuff
11 years 8 months ago #91165
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Like the idea of soldering them! As you say Bugly the solder is nice and soft would squash down nicely. And give nice connection. Also less likely to tarnish which common problem with copper wires!
Best to get a large soldering iron. With a large tip. So you have plenty of heat and can transfer the heat quickly. I have found more likely to melt insulation with small irons as you have to hold them on for ever to get enough heat and then still likely to get a dry connection.
Not sure what size but wouldn't use anything under 30W iron for light connections etc. Bigger iron would be needed for heavy work.
In the end you want a strong connection with as much strength and surface area between the two surfaces. And much preferred to be like one with full contact and lots of strength! Such as soldered.
Best to get a large soldering iron. With a large tip. So you have plenty of heat and can transfer the heat quickly. I have found more likely to melt insulation with small irons as you have to hold them on for ever to get enough heat and then still likely to get a dry connection.
Not sure what size but wouldn't use anything under 30W iron for light connections etc. Bigger iron would be needed for heavy work.
In the end you want a strong connection with as much strength and surface area between the two surfaces. And much preferred to be like one with full contact and lots of strength! Such as soldered.
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11 years 8 months ago #91166
by hayseed
Spot on Cam....
And when you buy a soldering iron,
Don't stuff about..
Buy the biggest one in the Shop......
"Be who you are and say what you feel...
Because those that matter...
don't mind...
And those that mind....
don't matter." -
Replied by hayseed on topic Re: Elect tricky stuff
Best way to use those crimp terminal with a hole in them is to pull the plastic thing off and solder them on. Crimps are one step up from Scotchlocks, which are a long way down the ladder, so it's not saying much.
Spot on Cam....
And when you buy a soldering iron,
Don't stuff about..
Buy the biggest one in the Shop......
"Be who you are and say what you feel...
Because those that matter...
don't mind...
And those that mind....
don't matter." -
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11 years 8 months ago #91167
by bigcam
Replied by bigcam on topic Re: Elect tricky stuff
We probobly solder together a couple of hundred jions a week. We use little torches that run on Lighter gas, just put the flame on the wire and the solder on the other side, it's almost instant. No good for fiddly electronics, but real good for soldering wires together on trucks. Then a bit of heat shrink over the top.
Bugly, here's an interesting fact, it is illegal to solder the ends of the wires and then put them in a screw terminal when domestic electricity is concerned because they recken the solder can crush and the terminal come loose. If you look at domestic power they actually use these little crimps that go over the end of the bare wire.
On the trucks though I put a bit of solder on the end of the wire before I put it in a screw terminal.
Bugly, here's an interesting fact, it is illegal to solder the ends of the wires and then put them in a screw terminal when domestic electricity is concerned because they recken the solder can crush and the terminal come loose. If you look at domestic power they actually use these little crimps that go over the end of the bare wire.
On the trucks though I put a bit of solder on the end of the wire before I put it in a screw terminal.
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11 years 8 months ago #91168
by atkipete
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Yeah, that is what I have been doing, put off the plastic bit,soldering the wire into the lug on with a big electric soldering iron and then put heatshrink over it.
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11 years 8 months ago #91169
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Pete
Be careful or Cam will employee you as an apprentice.
Trevor
Be careful or Cam will employee you as an apprentice.
Trevor
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11 years 8 months ago #91170
by bigcam
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LOL, don't know that Pete would want to work for me.
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11 years 8 months ago #91171
by atkipete
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Based on the standard of workmanship I have seen coming out of there Cam, it would be a privilege. However I am a bit long in the tooth to be starting out on the tools now.
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11 years 8 months ago #91172
by HEOFTHEHUM
Replied by HEOFTHEHUM on topic Re: Elect tricky stuff
Generators produce their maximum output around 12 to 18 hundred revs depending on the application,so a small pulley wont hurt being its a truck,if youve changed your Regulator and Coil thats about all you have to do.
The starter will spin real quick,some can handle it some cant,so have 12v a spare.
Solder your connections.
Cheers Ray
The starter will spin real quick,some can handle it some cant,so have 12v a spare.
Solder your connections.
Cheers Ray
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11 years 8 months ago - 11 years 8 months ago #91173
by Sarge
Sarge
ACCO Owner, Atkinson dreamer.
Replied by Sarge on topic Re: Elect tricky stuff
Pete, I did the same thing to my O Bedford, changed the pulley to reuse the belt, keep it same size belt anyway.
Reg and coil changed but after a long day carting hay the thingo in the dizzy went... capacitor comes to mind... was told it needed to be different to what was there and sold me the right new one... did heaps more hay that season & still goes (or did... water troubles now) Did not find any pre-smoked wiring
One of our Guru's will have some good advice on this I am sure.... 12 volts on the starter are not a problem.
/me
Reg and coil changed but after a long day carting hay the thingo in the dizzy went... capacitor comes to mind... was told it needed to be different to what was there and sold me the right new one... did heaps more hay that season & still goes (or did... water troubles now) Did not find any pre-smoked wiring
One of our Guru's will have some good advice on this I am sure.... 12 volts on the starter are not a problem.
/me
Sarge
ACCO Owner, Atkinson dreamer.
Last edit: 11 years 8 months ago by Sarge.
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11 years 8 months ago #91174
by atkipete
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I think I do need to change the capacitor but to what? Vaguely remembering that if the capacitor isnt the right value it will burn metal from one side of the points to the other.
Have got a new Bosch SU12R coil but no idea what ballast resistor or capacitor I should run with it.
Have got a new Bosch SU12R coil but no idea what ballast resistor or capacitor I should run with it.
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