Log Books

Late last year Hey Charger raised the issue of vehicles on Club plates and do they need to carry log books, since then I have been searching for a definitive answer.... well this is as good as it gets.

All vehicles with a GVM of 12t or more and outside 100k radius of the registered/home address, the driver MUST have a fatigue management work diary. As there is no mention of registration in the regulation the club plates has no relevance in this issue. Includes bus seating 12 or more including driver.

.Dont be surprised if tootling along on club plates that my colleagues stop you for a chat, there is an issue with far to many club permit vehicles being used as a daily commuter or for shopping expeditions. make sure you have the club magazine or other article indicating your journey is an approved club run.

Sarge :-X

Sarge
GuddayM8

eye plead on the 5th amendment
I no nutn
LOL
the legal log book from 2 or 3 years ago still legal to use jist like back then

coz me still got half a book of pages still togo
B nuther 5 years B 4 she b finished
I have not been formally notified th@ there is changes
jist anew name fatigue management work diary = log book 2 me
LOL

Cya

[ch9786]

Swish, I will get back to you on that, but I suspect that they had a sunset claus on the old ones.

I am guessing that like me, you would not know which old one to dust off and use first...

I went and paid the $15 for a new FMWD.... big floppy thing, needs a good cover and good hideyhole.
And needs to be kept filled in and pages removed or some nasty claytons cop will sting you with an expensive ticket.


Sarge :-X

In Queensland they`ve been enforcing the Log Book rule.QLD Transport also sent us all a letter saying that the truck couldn`t weigh more than 1/2 the GVM with a load on,which is tricky,some old trucks weigh 1/2 the GVM to start with,but our rego sticker still has the full GVM written on it.In Queensland we register them on Special Interest rego and don`t need to worry about permits.

In WA on club licence you are allowed full GVM and no log books.
However if we cross border into SA over 12T then we have to comply with national drivers diary.
Club or invitation only events. Test runs are okay and personal trips eg weddings are okay.

Basil

Do any of the other states have this 1/2 GVM rule?It surprises me that it would be right if they still put the full GVM on the rego sticker.It looks pretty easy in WA Basil.When i registered my Road Boss on club rego,they put the GVM on the rego sticker at 85 tonnes,so I`m well and truly covered.

When I looked into the situation here. The old Log book system in Victoria on club permit plates we didn't need to worry about them as we weren't driving for reward.

As Sarge indicates we don't really have a log book any more! It is now a fatigue management diary. And no exceptions above 12 ton and 12+ seat buses.

Each state is different how they handle vintage/classic vehicles. They are operated under permits in some states and in others they are operated under a special type of registration. Very important to be aware of the differences when going between states. Such as Basil indicates. For example a club permitted vehicle from victoria is not permitted in WA as all vehicles have to be registered. If the same club permitted vehicle went to qld would it only be able to carry 1/2gvm? (expect not as it is a condition of the qld reg but not sure). And of course filling in the diary all the way!

Thank goodness my only truck on the road has full reg and way under 12ton! Could be an issue when I get the other truck on the road however....

To drive a club permit vehicle in WA you need a WA police tempory movement permit to do it.......which is only valid for 24 hours.
Three cheers again for a national system.

Basil

In NSW i dont know of the log book but we can only have 3/4 of the trucks GVM, must have the event sheet and permission to move from the rego officer. Cant be used for reward for wedding or commercial gain

Yes a national system would be fab and easy, but that cant be done because it has to create some work for all the F*&kheads in the RTA's of this so called great nation? of confusion, Just like the syd-melb railway long ago u have your width and well have our's.

-Monty

We probobly just need to get rid of one level of government,ie the state governments.If I modify a truck,like put a body or a turntable on it,in QLD,I put a modification plate on it and supply a certificate that states all work is carried out in accordance with the VSB6 national code of practice,and the vehicle complies with the relevent ADR`s.If they go to register the same vehicle in NSW,thier body builders also must conform to the National code of practice,though they don`t fit a mod plate or supply a certificate,but my mod plate and certificate arn`t recognized in NSW.So all we gotta do is get rid of the state governments and it`ll all be sweet.