Bogie Drives in OZ

Was recently posted on the facebook page of this forum, when were the first bogie drive trucks used in Australia?.
As yet doesn't seem to be any definitive answer, several references to mid-20's of various makes, so thought I would ask it here on account of can nearly always get an answer on this site. Australia! Not when they first appeared in general use overseas.
Dave

The earlies Ive seen was a Sentinel steamer ,but was it a bogie............it had two axles driven by chains........but IMHO four spring with a short rocker is not a bogie...........a bogie is something like a Timken that is a unit separate from the truck.

Cogz
gudday m80
eye'd imagine after WWII there were many tandem drive trucks imported as x militay
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cya

Hi,

according to Wiki, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogie , but most of it is around Railway use but a few mention of the truck world.

"....is a chassis or framework that carries a wheelset, attached to a vehicle—a modular subassembly of wheels and axles."

but to keep the other side happy...

"A prime mover or truck with two drive axles at the back, a 6×4 or if twin steer 8×4 vehicle. Bogie drive prime movers are the most common in Australia. The drive is usually transmitted from one axle to the other by means of a short drive shaft called a jack-shaft."
www.commercialandtrucksure.com.au/glossary-of-terms/

Maybe Dave needs to be more specific in his question.

Terry

JOHN.K. wrote: ,but was it a bogie.............

Good point JK...…….when is a bogie not a bogie...……..
What about Camerons spread drive..... how far apart do the axles have to be before it is a spread drive
and not a bogie drive. ??????
Or do we have mostly tandem drives and few bogie drives around the place ………..
……………………….Billly……………………..

Billy Pee
guddday m8

guess n
axles contained ina suspension as one unit to work together
eg: a 4 axle dog trailer with 2 axles @ front of trailer & 2 axles @ rear of trailer
= a bogie bogie as the 2 groups of axles aint connected

cya

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GDay $wishy...…….. maybe this is going to be a bit complicated....!!!!!!!!!!
……………..Billy...…………….

Terry, the query was lodged on the HCVC facebook site with not much more info than , and I quote verbatim, “ Can anyone tell me when the first bogie drive prime movers were used/ legal in Australia?” Various answers were posted without, at least up until now, any accurate time frames. Dave

Yes, could have opened a can of worms. Camerons spread drives? Still bogies. Chain drives were mostly only one single diff, yet operated as all rear duals driving. Same same with those mongrel vee belt drives that some had mointed on Permatraks, single drive diffs, but still technically all rear wheel drive. We could go on and on! Which yobbo opened this can of worms??

Michael Terry in his heroic drive from Port Headland to Melbourne in a straight line in 1925 used Morris 6 wheelers.

These were proper bogie drive with two driven conventional diffs, not chain drive. They did offer these in their brochures as prime-movers but I have never seen a photo of one with a turntable. i would presume a bogie drive prime mover pulling a trailer would not have found a speed limiter necessary with 45hp although they did have a two speed reduction box on the back of the 4 speed main box.