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Mystery tramway vehicle, help please

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12 years 5 months ago - 12 years 5 months ago #65234 by Lang
I think everyone agrees it is a Mack.

The cab has two ridges on the door and the bottom of the cab flares out - a style that went out well before WW2 except for English trucks. Small window openings also scream 1930's.

Bedfords had two ridges on the door. The cab is almost certainly Australian (knee air vents on a copy of foreign design while the original cabs overseas went for in front of the windscreen). My guess would be either a Holden cab for a British truck or maybe Richards - also for an English make.
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12 years 3 months ago #65235 by Beaver
The "for sale" section mentions an upcoming auction which includes

1940s Mack original Tramways recovery crane;

Wonder if it is the same vehicle??

Beaver@ Museum of Fire

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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #65236 by Lang
This looks like the civilian EH, but I may be wrong. It is bogie drive which probably makes it a different model name.


www.flickr.com/photos/7863658@N07/479501703/


This is how most of the EH and NR Macks in Australia started. Taken in Darwin during WW2. This looks like a NR model which is bigger than EH. Still looking for WW2 photo of EH.

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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #65237 by Lang
Found them, including one with specs. Looks like the military had both round and square guards.

I also found reference to some on the Alice Springs to Darwin road being factory fitted with Buda diesels.



Note the Mack cab on this one - nothing like our subject vehicle. The tramways one is almost certainly an ex-soft top that has been modified with a foreign cab.





Short wheelbase prime mover.





Long wheelbase cargo landing at Normandy


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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #65238 by
we're still not finished yet!! ;D ;D ;D

i reckon bigcam and hayseed have nailed it....all up it's the mack chassis, front etc. but the cab appears to be 1940-1941 ford (or marmon herrington).

not many trucks had the side window and gutter higher than the front screen, and this cab ticks the box

all plausible with either the exigencies of war ..or a lash up later in its life, just to keep us all guessing.

cheers

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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #65239 by ivor project

we're still not finished yet!! ;D ;D ;D

i reckon bigcam and hayseed have nailed it....all up it's the mack chassis, front etc. but the cab appears to be 1940-1941 ford (or marmon herrington).

not many trucks had the side window and gutter higher than the front screen, and this cab ticks the box

all plausible with either the exigencies of war ..or a lash up later in its life, just to keep us all guessing.

cheers





sorry but that is NOT a 41 ford cab
roof to high
a pillar at windshield to thick plus wrong angle
doors flat -ford curved
large sill under door- fords none
rear corner straight - ford curved
cowl todeep plus has a seem - ford shallow no seem
molding on door similar but to close together
side cowl vents - ford is one in top of cowl

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12 years 3 months ago #65240 by Lang
Detective,

Ivor is right, not a Ford. Here are 1938, 1939 and 1940-47 cabs. At first glance they look a bit like it but I think no go.

Lang








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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #65241 by Lang
What is the jury's opinion on these.

K5 Inter cabs in Geelong.

They have about the right window relationship and have the two thin moulds moulds on the door (unlike the thick Ford ones). The one to the right rear of the closest cab is about the same perspective as the mystery cab.

Bottom of the doors is all wrong but maybe we are looking for a Richards cab of some sort and being thrown off by American photos?




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12 years 3 months ago #65242 by Swishy

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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #65243 by hayseed
Don't think so Lang...

Compare the length of the cowl, where the knee vents are,
And the depth of cab behind the Door....
Looks different to me....

But ISTBC........

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And those that mind....
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