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A was for Austin, but now B is for Bedford
4 years 1 week ago #209677
by Morris
I have my shoulder to the wheel,
my nose to the grindstone,
I've put my best foot forward,
I've put my back into it,
I'm gritting my teeth,
Now I find I can't do any work in this position!
Replied by Morris on topic A was for Austin, but now B is for Bedford
PDU
Colour coding is a good idea. I just tried it and will not know if I got it right until I submit this. I just hit preview and I think it works, and who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks?
Colour coding is a good idea. I just tried it and will not know if I got it right until I submit this. I just hit preview and I think it works, and who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks?
I have my shoulder to the wheel,
my nose to the grindstone,
I've put my best foot forward,
I've put my back into it,
I'm gritting my teeth,
Now I find I can't do any work in this position!
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4 years 1 week ago #209682
by Lang
Replied by Lang on topic A was for Austin, but now B is for Bedford
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4 years 1 week ago #209684
by Swishy
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
Replied by Swishy on topic A was for Austin, but now B is for Bedford
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
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4 years 1 week ago - 4 years 1 week ago #209686
by PDU
Replied by PDU on topic A was for Austin, but now B is for Bedford
Touche Swishy ~ even if a wee bit rushed and not too fussy about the background . . . :blush:
Now, can I get back to cleaning up the driveway, ready to move the O type chassis out?
Opps! Just revisited your post Swishy and that does look interesting, and eminently workable.Can't believe I missed your modifications to the centre pin and shortening of the added plate. This would require me dropping the springs, at which time I could remove the two lower leaves to give the spring a little less rigidity. I like it, thanks.
Now, can I get back to cleaning up the driveway, ready to move the O type chassis out?
Opps! Just revisited your post Swishy and that does look interesting, and eminently workable.Can't believe I missed your modifications to the centre pin and shortening of the added plate. This would require me dropping the springs, at which time I could remove the two lower leaves to give the spring a little less rigidity. I like it, thanks.
Last edit: 4 years 1 week ago by PDU.
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4 years 1 week ago - 4 years 1 week ago #209694
by PDU
Replied by PDU on topic A was for Austin, but now B is for Bedford
Getting closer to being scrap metal, front brake cylinders plus a bit more to go.
Surely somebody needs the renmants of this chassis?
Lang: Yes, clearer, but if I was to do that the caster wedge would be pushed out as the spring continually flexed. With a u-bolt tightened down onto it, the wedge would be held and the spring would retain its curvature (limited though it is).
Surely somebody needs the renmants of this chassis?
How about some spare wheels, 20 x 8.25?
Great heavy gauge chassis rails?
Lang: Yes, clearer, but if I was to do that the caster wedge would be pushed out as the spring continually flexed. With a u-bolt tightened down onto it, the wedge would be held and the spring would retain its curvature (limited though it is).
Last edit: 4 years 1 week ago by PDU.
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4 years 1 week ago - 4 years 1 week ago #209704
by Lang
Replied by Lang on topic A was for Austin, but now B is for Bedford
PDU the caster wedge must go under the centre of the spring in the area between where the two proper u-bolts normally go not under the extra front one. If you put it under the front one all it will do is restrict the spring action by effectively shortening the spring. You will be creating a fulcrum 4 inches along the spring increasing the chance of breakage and certainly giving a harsher ride. The whole spring has to be angled from its designed central support point and be allowed to bend over its full length.
PS. Just thinking that if you placed the front shock absorber mount as a rod coming off the very front of the extension plate it would go a very long way to stabilising any rocking action caused by the spring centre of effort being pushed to the rear.
Lang
PS. Just thinking that if you placed the front shock absorber mount as a rod coming off the very front of the extension plate it would go a very long way to stabilising any rocking action caused by the spring centre of effort being pushed to the rear.
Lang
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4 years 1 week ago #209707
by Swishy
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
Replied by Swishy on topic A was for Austin, but now B is for Bedford
BigDownUnder
Wouldn't hurt to add a cupla Spring pack bracelets ( just to keep m all in lign n together )
2 on each end of each pak should do it
WotSezU?
cya
Wouldn't hurt to add a cupla Spring pack bracelets ( just to keep m all in lign n together )
2 on each end of each pak should do it
WotSezU?
cya
OF ALL THE THINGS EYE MISS ................. EYE MISS MY MIND THE MOST
There's more WORTH in KENWORTH
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4 years 1 week ago #209708
by JOHN.K.
Replied by JOHN.K. on topic A was for Austin, but now B is for Bedford
I d certainly be keeping the springs out of the other chassis,cause I think youll be needing them.
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4 years 1 week ago - 4 years 1 week ago #209716
by PDU
Replied by PDU on topic A was for Austin, but now B is for Bedford
You're starting to make me feel ill . . .
. . . in the past I have adapted Valiant brakes onto a '36 Ford beam axle, and Humber discs onto an '39 Oldsmobile coil suspension which required changing the upper suspension arms and their mountings totally, adapting the lower control arms to the Humber stubs, and having it checked through the government inspection garage with no issues, and put plenty of interstate miles on both of them . . .
This is so basic, I know what I should do, but at the moment I might just go away and crawl up into a ball somewhere for a few days and have a rethink.
UPDATE An hour or so of contemplation - I revisited the different springs, and mountings, even considered doing a cut and shut with the O type front section grafted onto the M type chassis (if you check the chassis widths and depths they are within 1/8" in width and 1/2" in depth and could be overlapped virtually from the halfway mark of the cab backwards) . . . and then thought, why bother, the simplest solution is to just forget the M type chassis and go back to the original one!! Clean it, reinstate the cab rear crossmember (straightforward as the lower side supports are still in place and the top will align where I knocked the rivets out) paint it, transfer all the good bits across that can be transferred - no problems, no need to modify the wheel offset at the front, and no issues bolting the body back on other than replacing the body mount that was sheared when I got it anyway! All too easy, and so much for the phantom Bedford, R.I.P. :blush: :dry:
. . . in the past I have adapted Valiant brakes onto a '36 Ford beam axle, and Humber discs onto an '39 Oldsmobile coil suspension which required changing the upper suspension arms and their mountings totally, adapting the lower control arms to the Humber stubs, and having it checked through the government inspection garage with no issues, and put plenty of interstate miles on both of them . . .
This is so basic, I know what I should do, but at the moment I might just go away and crawl up into a ball somewhere for a few days and have a rethink.
UPDATE An hour or so of contemplation - I revisited the different springs, and mountings, even considered doing a cut and shut with the O type front section grafted onto the M type chassis (if you check the chassis widths and depths they are within 1/8" in width and 1/2" in depth and could be overlapped virtually from the halfway mark of the cab backwards) . . . and then thought, why bother, the simplest solution is to just forget the M type chassis and go back to the original one!! Clean it, reinstate the cab rear crossmember (straightforward as the lower side supports are still in place and the top will align where I knocked the rivets out) paint it, transfer all the good bits across that can be transferred - no problems, no need to modify the wheel offset at the front, and no issues bolting the body back on other than replacing the body mount that was sheared when I got it anyway! All too easy, and so much for the phantom Bedford, R.I.P. :blush: :dry:
Last edit: 4 years 1 week ago by PDU.
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