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6 years 6 months ago - 6 years 6 months ago #187906 by Lang
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Overnite

Couldn't find anything to release the locked solid shift lever.

I actually eventually found a way to fix it by removing the battery to get at and push the gearbox lever by hand (Mitsubishi Lancer) but when I disconnected the battery I heard a click and on reconnect it had reset itself as you say. She still would not take my word for it or the RACQ towie's so he loaded a perfectly good car on the truck and carried her home.

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6 years 6 months ago #187938 by Roderick Smith
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Roderick.

Production of final Holden underway.
Leaked photo shows sedan in Elizabeth manufacturing plant.
A leaked photo published on social media appears to show the final Australian-made Holden ahead of the plant's closure on October 20.
The image features a Commodore sedan as a bare metal shell in the manufacturer's Elizabeth plant, pictured with a sign signifying the car as the "Last Holden Manufactured in Australia".
Holden declined to comment on the photo, which was not officially released by the brand.
It will officially produce its final cars on the morning of Friday October 20, when the final vehicles roll off its production line at a ceremony exclusive to Holden employees.
It is possible that the factory has assembled a final batch of bare bodies which will be painted, mated with driveline hardware and dressed with a full complement of parts next week.
Ford insiders leaked images of the final Falcons before the brand's Broadmeadows closure 2016, working outside the blue oval's official media strategy.
For all the latest Holden information, visit our showroom.
Holden Commodore Summary See other Holden Commodore models
Body type5 seater Sedan Safety Greenn/a Fuel economyPetrol - Unleaded ULP Fuel consumption12.6/100km
Transmission6 speed Manual Engine6.2L, 8 cylinder Aspirated PerformancePower: 304Kw@6000rpm Torque: 570Nm@4400rpm 0-100 km/hn/a
11.10.17 < www.drive.com.au/motor-news/production-o...-underway-65396.html >

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6 years 6 months ago #187952 by Mrsmackpaul
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I have read some replies on here and people pointing fingers this way and that way as to who or what is to blame about the state of affairs we find our selves in
When Ford wound up last year I think it was ????? as the media showed people leaving from the last shift, none drove a Ford

When we sook about this mess we find ourselves in , we are to blame as we dont support the locals , or are we ??
Because the truth is no one wants big cars anymore and yet thats what was made so I guess we all are to blame we didnt buy their product and the companies for what ever reason wouldnt make what people wanted

Paul

Your better to die trying than live on your knees begging

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6 years 6 months ago #187955 by Roderick Smith
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Several interesting broadcasts are linked from this.

Roderick

Podcast: The ‘seeds of Holden’s demise’. Where it all went wrong for GMH Adelaide 'Advertiser' October 12, 2017.
THE “seeds of Holden’s demise” weren’t planted amid the recent turbulence of a changing global economy but way back in 1948, with the resignation of the visionary head of the company’s Australian arm, Laurence Hartnett, Adelaide historian Don Loffler argues.
Hartnett, an Englishman and former director at Vauxhall Motors, was headhunted by General Motors to rescue the company’s ailing Australian operations in 1934.
In 1944, he was charged with delivering Australia’s first fully locally produced car, the 48-215, which was finally launched in 1948 and became affectionately known as the “FX”.
But the brash Hartnett clashed with General Motors’ American managers over the styling of the front mudguards or “fenders” of the first Holden.
Hartnett thought building the fenders into the side of the car in a single panel would make the car more economical to produce but GM passed on Hartnett’s design and went instead with a rejected GM prototype.
So upset was he at the parent company’s decision, Hartnett resigned and, sadly, wasn’t invited to the unveiling of the car by Prime Minister Chifley in 1948.
Don Loffler, who has written several books on Holden’s early history, argues Hartnett’s departure was the beginning of the end for the company.
“I’m going to argue that the seeds of Holden’s demise were sown right from the start, that Holden was destined to be behind the times for decades”, Loffler says in a new episode of The Advertiser’s local history podcast Heaps Good History.
“General Motors wanted to be in command of the whole project to produce this new Australian car and their ideas as to what the car should look like, were different and dare I say it, behind the times”.
“General Motors was not going to be lectured by an Australian - well, he was an Englishman, really, but he’d become ‘too Australian’ according to General Motors.
“Of course they won out but then Hartnett argued so vigorously with them that eventually ended up with this awful compromise of a car with two separate mudguards.
“Now that was not the way of the future at all, not even the General Motors way. So the very first Holden was old-fashioned when it came out.”
“Hartnett was a visionary and this was proved again and again. He was ahead of the game”
“So, I ask, what would have happened if Hartnett stayed on, if they’d given him his wish, I suggest it would be a very different company, right through.”
Loffler says GMH became so “deluded by the runaway success” of the first Holden and the subsequent the FJ and FE models, which were popular, solid and reliable cars but cut corners on the most basic features “to save money”.
“It’s what I call short-term gain for long-term pain,” Loffler says.
“When the FE Holden comes out, finally, in 1956, with a nice piece of styling, can you believe that turn indicators were only put onto the Holden special model?
“Please don’t try and tell me it was too expensive; they were not trying.
“By the time GMH woke up to themselves it was too late.”
“They’d lost the sales and you can’t suddenly put airconditioning, windscreen washers, all the goodies, radios, onto a car in one go.
“When you realise you’ve lost the plot, you can’t do that - it’s economically impossible.
“And I suggest that they dropped the ball and it was never to be picked up again, or when it was it was too late.”
www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-austra...e11c1cffcee0b15c542a

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6 years 6 months ago #188188 by hayseed
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"Be who you are and say what you feel...
Because those that matter...
don't mind...
And those that mind....
don't matter." -
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6 years 6 months ago #188189 by asw120
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Note the little comment at the bottom "and then there were none".

Jarrod.


“I offer my opponents a bargain: if they will stop telling lies about us, I will stop telling the truth about them”

― Adlai E. Stevenson II

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6 years 6 months ago #188191 by Morris
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Then there were none.

If any foreign power decides to invade us any time between now and eternity, they will be safe if the knowledge that we are unable to produce vehicles to fight them. We can not even make clothes to equip an army. The loony left are telling us to stop farming and stop producing food, and import it all. when that happens, the same foreign power will be able to starve us into submission. (or death)

Our stupid politicians think we are still the Lucky Country!

I have my shoulder to the wheel,
my nose to the grindstone,
I've put my best foot forward,
I've put my back into it,
I'm gritting my teeth,

Now I find I can't do any work in this position!

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6 years 6 months ago #188193 by JOHN.K.
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It is the lucky country for politicians,pensions after 7 years,not income testd.Free just about everything ,if you are cunning and dont get found out.Half own houses in Canberra which they rent out,and claim the $200 odd a night living allowance.And the greens get caught out employing refugees for $1 a day as servants.

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6 years 6 months ago #188197 by JOHN.K.
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Anyway,within a couple of years the only place cars will be made is China.Excepting the European economies where massive government subsidies allow the industries to survive.All the big makers already have multiple Chinese factories,and a lot of cars on the market here are made there,but the brands go to great lengths to hide the origin.

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6 years 6 months ago #188223 by mikeg
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Adelaide historian Don Loffler is drawing a very long bow claiming Hartnett left GM because of the reasons he outlined in this article. Whilst there may well be a grain of truth in what he says I think his departure from GM had a much more of a political base. Hartnett was appointed as Director of Ordinance by the Labor Government during WW11 and throughout that time had close ties with John Curtin and his Government. The Labor Government wanted to establish Australian Car Manufacturing post war and was approaching various overseas car makers to this end, General Motors being just one these. The Labor Government was seen by GM in the USA as a "Socialist" Government as they had threatened to set up a Government Owned facility if the car makers did not come to the party and set up a privately owned car making factory. Lawrence Hartnett by this time had totally adopted Australia as his home and his views were more aligned with those of Australia and it's way forward post war than those of his bosses in the USA. There was much skulduggery occurring around the proposal of establishing a truly Australian Car Maker and Hartnett was in the thick of it and it was this more that anything to do with car design that led to his departure from General Motors.

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