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4 years 4 months ago #204746 by cobbadog
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Series 1 Reggie but as for the ute, are my eyes deceiving me or is there no bumper or has it been colour coded to blend and maybe a hot rod.

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4 years 4 months ago #204755 by werkhorse
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I'd say Bedford too

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4 years 4 months ago - 4 years 4 months ago #204876 by Roderick Smith
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Thanks all. International was knocked by the grille (they had vertical bars, and a bump in the middle). I had trouble finding a Bedford D article. Most photos found by Bing were of larger vehicles. This one via Bing to Wikimedia doesn't carry a model code, just 'mid 1950s'.
The airport fence is obscuring the 'Bedford' label in my photo.
Edited 13.12 to take in answers from further on: The all-over yellow makes it a Department of Civil Aviation vehicle, or a Department of Supply vehicle on loan to DCA .
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4 years 4 months ago #204877 by Lang
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Most Department of Supply vehicles were yellow too in the day.

For those who do not know, the Department of Supply was the federal government organisation that owned every bit of equipment. They let out the purchase contracts (at the request of the various departments) for everyone from Defence to PMG. When the departments had finished with the gear they gave them back to the Department of Supply who auctioned - or tendered for big stuff like ships and aircraft.

Many departments were not big enough to have their own fleet management and workshops so you saw lots of yellow Department of Supply vehicles doing surveys, national parks, aboriginal support and carting government supplies all over the country etc. Often they would supplement even the big boys such as the army on major exercises and you would see the yellow or later, white, semi-trailers in non-tactical convoys.

They met their demise 40 years ago as each department built their own empires creating inefficiency and duplication of effort with many workshops and parts stocks spread around the country and hundreds of vehicles sitting idle for occasional use instead of a central pool that supplemented the various base fleets for rare high-use periods.

This is why you have vehicles such as 20 year old Landrover Perenties coming on the market at the moment often with only 15,000km or less on the clock. The army is stocked to cater for rare full effort use instead of drawing the extras from a central pool available to every department on an as-required basis.

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4 years 4 months ago #204884 by Lang
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Just a PS to that story.

The yellow Bedford is almost certainly a Civil Aviation or Department of Supply vehicle on loan (both used the same yellow colour).

One of their strong points was stocking the specialist vehicles while the individual departments owned their every day cars, utes, smaller trucks etc. They had heaps of S model 4x4 Bedfords and 4X4 Commers, 4x4 and 6x6 AEC's, bulldozers and graders, low loaders etc for use on National remote road projects, country aerodrome building, geological exploration. Len Beadell's famous road building in the desert used Department of Supply vehicles. The only J2 4x4 Bedford step side utes I have ever seen were a special order for D of S. They of course loved Internationals and the 120, 130 and 160 4x4's were often to be seen in yellow.

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4 years 4 months ago #204887 by cobbadog
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The NSW Atate Rail had a huge warehouse at Redfern full of brand new trucks that never got registered. After the retirement of a high ranking person doing the oredering the reason offered to the public as to how this could ahppen was that they had to spend the budget otherwise they would loose it.
Bloody Brilliant !

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4 years 4 months ago #204893 by Rob W
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Not all Commonwealth Depts relied on Dept of Supply.PMG Dept did their own thing ie purchasing , operating/maintaining & disposal. Defence,CSIRO, SMA & Dept of the Interior etc. Dept of Supply went on to become Dept of Admin' Services & that vanished when Howard was PM after 1996.

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4 years 4 months ago - 4 years 4 months ago #204896 by Lang
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From September 1966

PMG SPENDS
$9m ON
VEHICLES
The Post Office will spend $9.4 million to
purchase 4,400 motor vehicles from Australian
manufacturers, the Postmaster-General, Mr
Hulme, announced yesterday.
He said that about 1,00o
vehicles would be additions
to the fleet, and the re-
mainder would replace ex-
isting vehicles.
The Ford company,
which will supply 1,745 ve-
hicles for $2.7 million, re-
ceived the biggest order.
Other details of the order
are: General Motors
Holden's, 922 vehicles for
$I.6 million; Volkswagen,
505 vehicles for $790.000;
BMC, 375 vehicles for
$796,000, International. 399
vehicles for $1.27 million:
Regent Motors, 219 Ve-
hicles for $580,000. Other
suppliers would be Chrysler.
A.M.I., Thiess Bros.
Fruehauf, Leyland, and
Freighters.
The vehicles range from
small passenger cars to
semi-trailers, and delivery
will be over several years.
The Post Office has the
biggest fleet in Australia,
totalling nearly 11,000 ve-
hicles. The fleet's mileage
is 104 million a year, and it
uses nine million gallons of
fuel.

Very interesting was the original purpose of the Department of Supply. Only 5 years after a war where Australia was woefully lacking in preparation and capability they decided to rectify the problem. It always retained its responsibility for national defence preparation supporting various manufacturing, experimental and development projects throughout the nation. Their huge vehicle fleet was but a part of this responsibility.
The functions of the Department at its creation in 1950 were:[1]

Australian Aluminium Production Commission
Control of materials which are or may be used in producing atomic energy
Manufacture, acquisition, provision and supply of war material involving operation and management of factories, workshops and undertakings concerned in the production of war material
Acquisition by the Commonwealth and the establishment of factories and workshops for the purpose of producing war material
Securing of supplies of materials, plant, tools and equipment for that purpose
Employment and training of technicians, workmen and others for that purpose
Arrangements and all action necessary to secure the supply, manufacture, processing and delivery of war material
Building of merchant ships and other vessels (other than naval vessels) and repair and maintenance of all merchant ships and the provision of dry-docking and repairing facilities for merchant ships
Control and limitation of profits in relation to the production of war material by private enterprise
Promotion and production of liquid fuels, and in particular, the production of power alcohol and benzol
Importation and use of tin plate
Procurement of supplies and foodstuffs for the Services and control of the production and distribution of supplies where their conservation is necessary
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4 years 4 months ago #204897 by Zuffen
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Ford got $1547.28 per vehicle.

Whilst I'm not a Ford buy I would buy one today at at price.

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4 years 4 months ago - 4 years 4 months ago #204900 by Lang
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Department of Supply was the peak organisation responsible for the Atomic testing, Antarctic Division, Woomera rocket tests and Jindivik drone as well as ship building and essential factories such as steel works. Parkes dish, Cooby Creek satellite tracking and Honeysuckle Creek satellite were all part of their operations.

A few vehicles including a bunch going to Cocos Island. You can see they left their standard road vehicles in factory colours and only painted their field vehicles and equipment yellow. They had a vast set of warehouses at Tottenham and disposal sales are carried out there to this day.

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