Moving of display vehicles whilst public close by

fell'as at our local show 2 years ago a couple of kids were accidently run over.i volunteer my tanker to keep down the dust in the carparks and and walking areas.was informed by show society that workcover had told them that any vehicle movement in crowds had to have a pedestrian escort one problem all the escorts were roughly 70 years or more and trekking over 100 acres or more they did not last long(28 degrees temp) so the answer was to dust down before crowds arrived and after they left.i know volunteers can get tight at events but i think escorts are the way to go cheers whale

I think Borris's experience with an RACQ run show is probobly more who has organized it and their attitude towards controlling vehicle movement.

Pretty much every show I've been too you can pretty much come and go as you please, especially the ones in country towns. I don't like to be constrained by times in or out of a place. If we go on a weekend we leave home when we feel like it, and if we stay overnight we usually get cracking Sunday morning so I spend a bit of the weekend with the family. If a show has those sort of constraints I just take the car and only go for a look. Most shows I've been too a lot of them have packed up before lunch on Sunday. It's one thing to whinge about paying to see stuff and someone wanting to go home early, but no one gets paid to display a vehicle, so why should they be compelled to fit into an organizers time frame?

If the Insurance companies and any other interested party had their way everything would be in place wheels chocked, batteries disconnected fenced off before the public turned up and you wouldn't find too many people keen on displaying a vehicle.

Unfortunatly you still have to rely on people using common sense. I've seen a couple of near misses at shows, actually one was a hit, and if there had have been anyone walking behind that, hi viz vest or not, it wouldn't have ended well.

I don't have any answers. Every show organizer approaches it differently. Anytime I've had anything to do with organizing a show all that has been stipulated is that if you are going to move it while the public is about it has to be registered, and anything unregistered most remain a static display. The reason being that if it is registered there is 3rd party insurance on it, and in theory it should be roadworthy. You know poeople still walk around supermarket carparks with out getting run over, what's the difference?

Thanks Cam..
Well put...



chocs

My REAL concern is Dubbo. An excellent show. However when the talk starts of the grand parade, there is unruly and unsupervised movement of trucks in a VERY CONFINED undercover area.
I'm not talking one or two trucks in the shed - dozens want to (rightly) show there machine.
One guy this year took a short cut. Pity, he nearly took the roller door too.
I think if guys want to go in the parade, then they park either outside or at least near the BIG door.
I DID SEE kids running around very close to manoeuvring trucks.

re leaving early, again, the MOF seem to have it right.

7. As set down by our public liability insurer and risk management

Heycharger,

As I stated previously and you stated just above. It is up to the organizers to set the ground rules and ensure that all participants are aware of them prior to them putting in an entry to the event and in advertising etc.

I will also state that I did read the rule for the mof display. And I must say that I might one day attend with a vehicle one of their events but even if it was a local event it wouldn't be a regular event! Why because to restrictive!

I would also suggest that this sort of restrictive policy wouldn't work at many events. Why? Because most events rely on exhibitors that travel many hours to get there. I for one wouldn't want to leave an event at 3pm for a 4+ hours home.

It is interesting to note most of the people at dubbo that left before lunch were from Sydney having to get back for work on Monday! If they couldn't get out early doubt half the trucks would have been there. I was also at dubbo and didn't see any uncontrolled movement of vehicles. They had plenty of officials during all vehicle movements. Everything was done at walking pace and supervised. Yes I'm sure it would make it easier if the vehicle for the parade were easier to access. But this doesn't always happen.

Finally if you don't like how an event is run or there rules. Don't go! If you don't agree with people going home early. Stay until stumps are pulled!

In the end if I Volunteer my time and expense to bring a vehicle I expect to be treated with respect and if I want to go home early I would expect the organizers to do their best to assist. I could have easier stayed home and maybe just send them a donation. A $50 donation much better than the hundreds to get the truck to a display.

Rod

Am i reading this wrong as i did not attend dubbo.

The rules say no movement, but they have a grand parade which requires truck to move. ?????

I think that is a totally different thing to the odd truck leaving early.

Could you imagine the mayhem if 300+ trucks at sandown all wanted to go in a parade around the track with public in the area. Disaster waiting to happen.

Trevor

Slospeed,

Dubbo allows movement of vehicles at walking pace only under supervision of Marshall's at all time.

During the movement for the parade they have at least a dozen Marshall's all controlling the vehicle movements.

They did a great job! I didn't see any issues with how it worked. If there were issues these should have been pointed out to the organizers so that they can look into any issues in the post event wash up meeting so appropriate action can be taken for the next event.

Personally I think even your suggestion about moving all the trucks at sandown with publi around would be possible as long as appropriate risk assessment and minimization actions are taken. As well as appropriate controls.

The main point don't stop things from happening. Control them!

I for one I attended Dubbo and had a great time But left at around lunch on Sunday as had to drive back to Melb and the others with me had another 3hr drive so if these constraints were enforced I would not have gone. Just my thoughts

Oh I should also point out if a organizer wouldn't allow me to get my truck out and I had to go back to pick it up. I would almost consider that they have conspired to have stolen my truck!

Also most events don't have any secure location to store vehicles for later pick up. Penrith is probably the exception to this. Also most events don't have public transport close by or viable to easily or cheap to leave without the primary vehicle. Also I wouldn't leave my truck with anyone I don't know!

Penrith is an exception to many of the situations where such a restrictive policy is needed but could also be viable to work. Nearly every other event around could not survive with similar policies.

Remember the exhibitors are not paid to attend or reimbursed in any way. So look after them. And make it enjoyable they will come back. Make it hard, difficult or in any way cause them trouble and they won't come back and stay home!

And without exhibitors you don't have a show!

I could very well be wrong, but Borris's bad experience was being caused by a bunch of organizers who can afford to be very heavy handed, mainly because there are probobly 50 times the amount of restored cars out there as compared to trucks.

I'd guess it would be a tricky legal question as to weather you can get away with locking gates and I would imagine that if an organizer was going to go down that path they would at least have to make a very clear statement. Legal rights to your vehicle change a lot as soon as you drive it off the public road and on to a property in someone else's control, and Police are not interested in civil matters.