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Bedford wheel/rim sizes 22 May 2020 16:45 #210525

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Hi PDU,
AS you seem to be pretty well up on these Bedfords, thought I may as well ask you directly as nobody seems to be answering my "cry for help"
As you know by the forum, have been chasing 6X16" rims for the Karrier project, and more than a few people seem to think that the smaller J series Bedford wheels may be getting very close to the same size. What I haven't been able to find out, and have even contacted a couple of wreckers, is the bore centre of the rim as well as the actual offset of the wheel, measured in inches. Wondered if you may have a workshop manual that may have them listed?

Or anyone for that matter.
I can follow a link if its printed out, not so good with Mr Google, we do NOT get along!
Have applied to a forum in the UK, but as yet, no reply.
I'll put these dimensions up here again if it's any help,

PCD=8+1/8" (8.125") 206.3mm * Ind std seems to be 205mm, maybe why I had to machine mine.
Stud hole diam=29/32" (0.906")** This is the mongrel stud hole size, seems to be halfway between 15/16" and 7/8"
Stud diam =45/64" (0.703) *** Another mongrel size and best I can make out its 17.8mm which I would have said would have been 18mm stud, but also has a bodgey 2.00mm thread pitch. NOT BSF, not pommy or yank!

So depending from where you measure the offset from, its either 1.102" or 28mm if measuring from inside the rim, its 6+9/16" (167mm).

After all that, still need the CENTREBORE diameter! (mine 6+1/2" (165mm) as well as the wheel/rim offsets.
Must be somebody out there who has a workshop manual that gives the wheel dimensions? Or even post a link to where I can find them? Maybe even got an old rim laying against a shed wall you may be able to measure?

Tried a few of those links on Google, most refer to car wheel dimensions.
As stated, rang a couple of Beddy wreckers, either couldn't or didn't want to help.
Thanks, Dave_64

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Bedford wheel/rim sizes 22 May 2020 16:57 #210526

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Here is another idea.

www.shannons.com.au/club/enthusiasts/rus...mmer-karrier-bantam/

And this is the Commer Superpoise wheel. Looks like Bedford J1 to me.


Here is the Bedford J1. I would put money on it fitting the Commer.
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Bedford wheel/rim sizes 22 May 2020 17:04 #210530

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Hi Dave 64,
i dont know which forum in the UK you have tried ,but if its not the one im thinking of try this ,its a similar site like this one and is full of members with loads of background and technical knowledge that might be able to help .
The site is Trucknet uk and there is links on the site to classic and vintage vehicles that may be able to help,hope this is of use
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Bedford wheel/rim sizes 22 May 2020 17:17 #210532

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The 15" wheels would be a nice solution Lang, but at what cost, and by whom?

So far as the J Series rims are concerned, sorry I can't assist you Dave as I don't have any here to measure. I can't understand why some of the owners of them on this forum aren't answering your query, perhaps this might help . . .
HEY WAKE UP YOU J TYPE BLOKES!!
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I must add that I'm not THAT well up on Bedfords, I'm only on my ABC's, and still on a huge learning curve!? :unsure: Definitely no expert!
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Bedford wheel/rim sizes 22 May 2020 19:07 #210538

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Bedford wheel/rim sizes 22 May 2020 19:36 #210540

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Yeah, I spotted that one too Lang but you can't see the tyre size :blush:

However Dave could always contact the bloke and ask him to measure it. Coincidentally I have asked a guy in WA to measure his wheel for you, which he says he will do this weekend.
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Bedford wheel/rim sizes 22 May 2020 19:54 #210541

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Dave_64 wrote: Hi PDU,
AS you seem to be pretty well up on these Bedfords, thought I may as well ask you directly as nobody seems to be answering my "cry for help"
As you know by the forum, have been chasing 6X16" rims for the Karrier project, and more than a few people seem to think that the smaller J series Bedford wheels may be getting very close to the same size. What I haven't been able to find out, and have even contacted a couple of wreckers, is the bore centre of the rim as well as the actual offset of the wheel, measured in inches. Wondered if you may have a workshop manual that may have them listed?

Or anyone for that matter.
I can follow a link if its printed out, not so good with Mr Google, we do NOT get along!
Have applied to a forum in the UK, but as yet, no reply.
I'll put these dimensions up here again if it's any help,

PCD=8+1/8" (8.125") 206.3mm * Ind std seems to be 205mm, maybe why I had to machine mine.
Stud hole diam=29/32" (0.906")** This is the mongrel stud hole size, seems to be halfway between 15/16" and 7/8"
Stud diam =45/64" (0.703) *** Another mongrel size and best I can make out its 17.8mm which I would have said would have been 18mm stud, but also has a bodgey 2.00mm thread pitch. NOT BSF, not pommy or yank!

So depending from where you measure the offset from, its either 1.102" or 28mm if measuring from inside the rim, its 6+9/16" (167mm).

After all that, still need the CENTREBORE diameter! (mine 6+1/2" (165mm) as well as the wheel/rim offsets.
Must be somebody out there who has a workshop manual that gives the wheel dimensions? Or even post a link to where I can find them? Maybe even got an old rim laying against a shed wall you may be able to measure?

Tried a few of those links on Google, most refer to car wheel dimensions.
As stated, rang a couple of Beddy wreckers, either couldn't or didn't want to help.
Thanks, Dave_64


Email Norman Aish who should be able to help you. Website - bygonebedfordbits.co.uk.
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Bedford wheel/rim sizes 22 May 2020 20:04 #210542

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Is this de ja vu or groundhog day Dave? :lol:

If no one else responds, hopefully the WA guy will ? ;)
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Bedford wheel/rim sizes 22 May 2020 20:21 #210546

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This site may help.....

they make brake drums and have the measurements for the drums.

technicast.co.nz/index.php?option=com_co...=view&id=12&Itemid=9

Click on the more details; it gives a lot more dimensions.

J1 front and rear.

SPIGOT LOCATION BORE
101.6

BRAKE FACE DIAMETER
330.2
BRAKE FACE LENGTH
54
OVERALL LENGTH 79.5
STUD HOLE PCD
5 3/8"
STUD HOLE #
6
STUD HOLE DIAMETER
3/8"
WEIGHT
TBA
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Bedford wheel/rim sizes 22 May 2020 21:56 #210555

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From my fading memory the way to measure the 'offset' of a wheel is to measure frome the inside (back) of the naive plate (wheel centre) to the flat of the rim where the tyre bead sits or the back flange.
This can give you the offset for a dual wheel or a single and the same way of measuring is done for cars and forklifts etc. I will appologise now if my memory has failed me but this rings true to me.
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