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3 years 6 months ago #215233 by JOHN.K.
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Your current 6 stud wheels should fit a AB130 ,or a C1300 axle.....they were 6 stud ...either dual or single wheel......the difference was the wheel section ,the 1300 wheels are a bit wider for bigger tyres......note that a D1310 wheel /hub /axle was 8 stud and not interchangable,except as a complete unit hub to hub......A 1100 axle will be 5 stud ,same as a Falcon ,and have disc brakes......Not recommended IMHO,too light.
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3 years 6 months ago - 3 years 6 months ago #215234 by Terra
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Great info, John!

I could do with new wheels of i'm going 'new' axle..

So AB130 or C1300 axle -hunting on the horizon!!!

Pity With covid restriction is making contact with people and then not being able to do a drive by, every offering parts being interstate...

Is There much of a difference between the AB130 and the C1300 axle?
Wondering regarding diff ratio, what's best?
I do go long distance, ignoring the fact that this van was designed primarily for city deliveries...

I already fattened up my leaf springs quite substantially, so that is ready to go...

Also, a fellow I've met has got a whole drive train of a Scout news been doing up and I was wondering if that could be an option, as I always envied the 4x4 Inters...
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3 years 6 months ago #215236 by JOHN.K.
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If you are thinking 4x4 ,buy a complete cab rusted out 1300 4x4,and everything will fit your chassis.......The most desirable diff is the C1300 with a 4.3 ratio centre,the AB will have 4.88 ratio ,which is also the ration of any 130/1300 4x4.,including AB,C,D line.
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3 years 6 months ago - 3 years 6 months ago #215237 by Terra
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Just wondering if the chassis length of the C1300... TheCM1300 rear axle being around 1.5m further back than with the CM1200, if that would be the same with the with the C1300 4x4?

For now I'm just fixing what I got to get back on the road in a couple days, but these are long time and range considerations for the not too distance future...
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3 years 6 months ago #215244 by Morris
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Terra mate I feel your pain
1. In 1970 when I was restoring my 1929 Chev I put fully sealed bearings on the rear axles, as well as new felt seals similar to the originals; and stopped diff oil getting on to the brakes

2. In 1996 I spend 14 weeks on a remote Northern Territory property and bought a Ford F250 to drive home. I took it to a well known mechanical workshop in Darwin and got a quote to have the brakes repaired. Many days after they said it would take, they phoned and said it was ready. When I went to pick it up they asked me for almost three times what they had quoted. I complained and eventually the boss admitted they had had the apprentice do the work on it. He reluctantly accepted payment of the amount he had quoted.
I drove it south and after a few hundred kilometres, the left hand rear wheel cylinder ripped out of the backing plate. I was cruising along and not using the brakes. I had tools but no spare parts so had to block off the brake pipe and continue with three wheel brakes.
About 150 kilometres north of Alice Springs the right hand wheel cylinder ripped out and I could not undo one of the wheel nuts that bad obviously been done up with a rattle gun by the idiot apprentice . I resorted to using the brand new cold chisel bad bought in Darwin, to undo the nut. On the second hit, three quarters of the blade broke off the chisel. It took me almost four hours to get the wheel off, remove the wheel cylinder and hammer the brake pipe closed.
Weeks later, after getting home through South Australia and into Victoria, I tracked down backing plates and wheel cylinders and found out that the idiot apprentice had put the cylinders on to the wrong side of the truck. That is why he had to hold them on with steel wire.

I have my shoulder to the wheel,
my nose to the grindstone,
I've put my best foot forward,
I've put my back into it,
I'm gritting my teeth,

Now I find I can't do any work in this position!
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3 years 6 months ago #215248 by cobbadog
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I can't remember which forum I visit that mentioned a company in NZ I think that make reproduction brake drums for many different makes and models. Sorry I can't remember but maybe a a lead as to where to search if you have to have a new drum.

Cheers Cobba & Cobbarette
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3 years 6 months ago #215249 by Terra
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Ohhh, yes, that would be most highly desired!!! I will try the NZ Inter forum on FB...

Thanks for the lead!!!
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3 years 6 months ago - 3 years 6 months ago #215253 by Terra
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Gawd damn, Morris, I just wrote you a reply which took me way too long, very well worded etc... and Poof!, it's gone without a trace...
Yeh, well, I'll give it another go;

I cant believe that happened to your poor F250.

It is so hard when one puts ones trust and money forward to suffer the indignation of incompetence, accompanied by the fact if one didn't have so much "good luck within bad luck"[ german saying], one could be dead by now or caused serious accidents thanks to the indiffernce of said incidents of incompetence...

Three times I got lucky:
The molten bearing on the axle was a week after leaving the workshop. I was still a greenhorn with only driving for a year... The mechanic denied having ever seen me or my car, as I had still some money outstanding and therefor no paperwork to prove he did the job.

Another one, 90 minutes after leaving 'repairers" in the Blue Mountains [who lured me to their place with the promises of an IH steering box.] TOTAL steering malfunction after hitting the flat in Penrith coming down from the mountains. Zigzagging over four lanes plus side trips, while rack and pinion were engaging/disengaging. They just loosened the steering box and filled it up with oil [!!!]. By the time we made it down the mountain the grease in the steering box had dissolved and presto! No steering... My sister suffered permanent damage to her right hand that day, trying to force the steering to respond as she was behind the wheel at the time. We came to a standstill perpendicular to the road. And not one other car around on this normal busy highway...

Then as well 90minutes of driving after leaving a Bob Jane Tyremart [my truck tyre guys were closed] my split rim EXPLODED OFF doing 110km on the highway and overtook me, making me think I was driving in a silent slap stick movie...

Each time the motor repair dispute tribunal told me I didn't stand a chance to win in court, much to my dismay.

All together I lost over the 26 years I had this van roughly 25 -30.000... If I had just gotten what I paid for in repairs over the years, I would have it purring like a kitten, on LPG and with a 4x4 set up, with an absolutely marvellous paint job ...

So far I am still repairing the bad repairs...
Had the so called IH specialists in Sydney who look after the fleet trucks do a motor recon when I lost compression on two cylinders. They quoted $6000, then kept it for a long time and then demanded $14000 of me before handing my truck over. They did some additional "repairs' to the dyna steering box I had put in, which it didn't need.
At the time I could hardly walk or drive due to a bad work accident and didn't have the energy to fight them to court.

That was 8years ago and I am now considering legal advice as I recently noticed that none of the engine mount rubbers had been exchanged. Nothing under the bonnet looks like a $14.000 recon, it's more a joke con-job! Even using silicone instead of engine gaskets... The shottiest job of so called IH specialist!

At the moment also dealing with an automotive paint company, which sold my several bad products [thinners with water in the bottom of the drum, paint which didn't cure properly etc]. So another lot of legal affairs to sort...

And people are surprised when I say I like to do as much as I can myself on my truck, even though I'm not a pro mechanic, just work in our communal workshop driveway and don't have a hoist. At least I haven't caused any damage to my vehicle with any of the work I have done to it in the last 20+ years...

There's definitely a Hell for bad mechanics, shared with the bad dentists [the dentist do the mechanics cars, and the mechanics do the dentists teeth,,,]

I had phantasies of ridding my self of my truck, and be done with it, but that was only due to exhaustion and fatigue... ...as what is there to replace it with?... It's a long term relationship, and I put so much time, love and money in it... ...I can't give up now!
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3 years 6 months ago - 3 years 6 months ago #215255 by wee-allis
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Terra, I feel your pain. You have definitely had a bad run with your repairers. Trouble is, there are mechanics and "Technicians" as they call them now. Most of them are just educated to replace or swap out components and if it isn't controlled by a computer, they have no idea.

BUT, sorry to say, all mechanics go to heaven. We got our hell down here. LOL.
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3 years 6 months ago #215256 by Morris
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Terra I think your run of bad mechanics is worse than mine. On the trip home from Darwin when I ran without rear brakes of course the brake warning light on the dash was on. I went through Adelaide in the wee small hours of the morning and in the dark, the red warning light looked as bright as a headlight. I was afraid it would attract attention of the Police so had to roll up my handkerchief and cover the light.

I and several others have the problem of being in the middle of, or at the end of a long message and it all disappears. A moderator got me to use Firefox instead of the old browser or whatever it is called but it still happens. As far as we can work out, I must inadvertently hit the wrong key. I think I caused it once by "Previewing" what I had written and then hit "Submit" without first going back to "Write".

I have my shoulder to the wheel,
my nose to the grindstone,
I've put my best foot forward,
I've put my back into it,
I'm gritting my teeth,

Now I find I can't do any work in this position!

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