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3 years 5 months ago #216652 by Lang
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As hydrogen is much lighter than air, will trucks have 5,000 litre fuel tanks to increase payload. You will have have them tethered when parking empty or they might float away.

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3 years 5 months ago #216653 by Swishy
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So the Q:? on everybodies Lips

how many ways is there to make hydrogen?

anybody?

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3 years 5 months ago #216654 by Lang
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If you want to follow this article you are a better man than me but apparently it is the future.

Currently 95% of hydrogen is produced from fossil fuels. This is OK if you are using it to make fertilizer and other products. Its use as a fuel for transport is a completely pointless exercise from the environment angle until such time as they can get the power from renewable sources.

The people in this article are working on that and the possibility seems good. You might ask why use electricity (from any source) to make hydrogen vehicles when you can cut out a step and just use electricity. The point is hydrogen solves the two stumbling blocks with electric cars. It can be carried in comparatively light weight fuel tanks of any size. Tanks don't deteriorate or have a use by life. The tanks can be filled at about the same speed as a petrol refill instead of hours for electric.

Like all flammable compressed gas it has its dangers but no worse than the LPG we have had for years and certainly no worse than the very high pressure required for Liquid Natural Gas.

Might be a better way to go than straight electric.

phys.org/news/2014-09-hydrogen-productio...gh-herald-cheap.html

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3 years 5 months ago - 3 years 5 months ago #216655 by Lang
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This is a nice hydrogen web site

www.linde-engineering.com/en/hydrogen/?g...BEAEYASAAEgIkm_D_BwE

I just thought of another hydrogen benefit. It can use 150 years of constant development of the internal combustion engine just with modifications and it does not require reinventing the wheel.

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3 years 5 months ago #216656 by Swishy
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Thanx Lang
eye'll put those links in the tooo hard basket 4 now

may B eye stik to put n mothballs in fuel tank

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3 years 4 months ago #216661 by BillyP
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.The oil companies must be taking notice of all this EV stuff...............
Will we see Shell/Origin signs popping up.?????? ............
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3 years 4 months ago #216662 by Lang
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For many years BP has been one of the world's largest solar companies. I don't think these oil companies will be left behind.

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3 years 4 months ago #216663 by Zuffen
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Liquid hydrogen is around 68kg/m3 compared to air at about 1.3kg/m3 compared to Diesel at 850kg/m3.

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3 years 4 months ago #216664 by Gryphon
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BillyP wrote: .
.The oil companies must be taking notice of all this EV stuff...............
Will we see Shell/Origin signs popping up.?????? ............
..................Billy...................


It is already happening with companies like Shell Energy and other major Oil companies investing in solar farms and renewable energy projects so I would think they are hedging their bets and looking for other markets as the oil use is impacted by alternate fuels.

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3 years 4 months ago - 3 years 4 months ago #216665 by Lang
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Despite their 'enemy' status with greenies the oil companies have been leading the green revolution as Terry says.

Why would a company like BP change its logo (fuel companies live and die by their logos to attract customers). Way back in 1989 they destroyed their pubic recognition overnight because they saw the future. We now have their great green logo of a combination of the sun and a growing flower.


Here is the story on the big boys and their various green strategies.

www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/oil-co...es-renewable-energy/
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