Tesla

Hey Swishy, you just bought a long forgotton memory about the mothballs in the fuel tank.
What was it again about having Napthalene in the fuel?

hayseed wrote: I read where "Boris" is going to Ban the sale of Internal combustion Engine (ICE) Powered vehicles In Great Britan from 2030..
I can see Australia becoming the Worlds dumping ground for excess ICE powered Vehicles.

The Missing link (In my mind) at the Moment is Affordable Batteries to store all the Wind & solar produced Electricity... That will be real game changer once It's sorted.

Well the answer is im the electric cars themselves apparently

A car spends 90% of it's life just sitting there do nothing
If it is plugged in to charge when the signal comes down the line to tell it to charge it can also discharge as well into the power grid and this goes as a credit to the car owners power bill


Was thinking about long distance trucks and the long forgotten bio diesel came into my mind

I really think this is all gunna happen and at a extremely fast rate of knots

Paul

BillyP wrote: .
.The oil companies must be taking notice of all this EV stuff...............
Will we see Shell/Origin signs popping up.?????? ............
..................Billy...................

Total (the French mob) have been leaders in this for many years

They had solar powered (a large percentage of power came from the sun anyway) petrol stations in Australia on the Nullarbor back in the late 70's early 80's

Total are already building large scale solar farms in Australia many many kilometers square
Huge batteries are going in that make that South Australia battery look like a baby

Paul

Hi,

regarding the batteries and recharging there was a talk replayed on ABC a few years ago now, might have been part of The Festival of Dangerous Ideas' in Sydney, and in that talk the person was suggesting that wide scale adoption of battery powered cars would come when you were able match the service station model of being able to 'fill your tank' in the space of few minutes.

In his/their vision it involved being able to drive into an updated service station and the battery/fuel cell was replaced, swapped out and a fully charged one inserted in the space of a few minutes. There was a lot of other things that needed to go along with that idea such as robots, smaller and less batteries and a consistent location and connections.

Terry

World’s largest battery storage facility

www.khl.com/international-construction/w...ber+2020&utm_term=CT

U may need more than a cut lunch n a sleepn bag to get round this lot

cya

I don't know about a festival of dangerous ideas, but I do know that more than a hundred years ago, when petrol that the Americans call gas was developed, a sample of it was tested by American Military fuel experts who declared that it was an extremely dangerous product that would only be suitable for use by a very small group of highly trained operators.

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Good grief....We are complaining about the amount of plastic bags that are floating around..............
Thousands of acres of solar panels and batteries ??????????????/
How many trees are to be demolished to accomplish that ??????????????
Where is all the worn out crap going to go. ????????????
Also where is all the materials to build this come from ??????????????
I think the cure is worse than the disease.
......................Billy....................

Renault have a show room on Champs Eleyse and 10 years ago they were showing the replacement battery service station idea.

No doubt Total would have been involved in the concept.

Essentially what Gryphon was mentioning.

Drive in and the battery is dropped out and a new one installed.

The concept was you owned the car but not the battery. A bit like swap and go gas bottles.

The replacement battery idea is not new. This was in place in USA well before the first world war and continued into the 1920's. New York particularly embraced electric where before 1910 electric cars outnumbered petrol.

Millions of miles were done in electric vehicles, particularly commercial models, that came without a battery. The power companies leased the batteries a bit like CIG/BOC gas bottles. They had quick change systems and vehicles either dropped into the supply station or vans came around to do on the spot changes.

Here is a good US Department of Energy history of electric cars.
www.energy.gov/timeline/timeline-history-electric-car

BillyP wrote: .
Good grief....We are complaining about the amount of plastic bags that are floating around..............
Thousands of acres of solar panels and batteries ??????????????/
How many trees are to be demolished to accomplish that ??????????????
Where is all the worn out crap going to go. ????????????
Also where is all the materials to build this come from ??????????????
I think the cure is worse than the disease.
......................Billy....................

Well to late Billy, its happened
Thousands upon thousands of acres of panels already and its only getting started

Zero trees gone so far

There's no crap to wear out for many many decades

China

There's some answers for you Billy

Paul