Electric vehicles and alternate fuel sources

Blackouts are bad enough but with all the electronics low voltage is a bigger problem brownouts play merry hell with anything with electronic controls
With regards to the infrastructure needed what sort of power supply is going to be needed at these proposed change over stations eg one halfway between Sydney and Melbourne how many trucks a day all the changed out batteries have to be charged ready for the next swap
The upgrades needed to recharge a few trail electric buses for the Brisbane city council would make your head spin according to the brother-in-law

Cheers Bluey

Nothing New.

History of the battery swap concept

The steam car, the internal combustion engine automobile, and the electric car emerged as the main competing technologies in the late 1890s until the 1920s. The concept of exchangeable battery service was first proposed as early as 1896 in order to overcome the limited operating range of electric cars and trucks.

The concept was first put into practice by Hartford Electric Light Company through the GeVeCo battery service and was initially available for electric trucks. The vehicle owner purchased the vehicle from General Vehicle Company (GeVeCo, a subsidiary of the General Electric Company) without a battery and the electricity was purchased from Hartford Electric through an exchangeable battery. The owner paid a variable per-mile charge and a monthly service fee to cover maintenance and storage of the truck. Both vehicles and batteries were modified to facilitate a fast battery exchange. The service was provided between 1910 and 1924 and during that period vehicles using it covered more than 6 million miles. Beginning in 1917 a similar service was operated in Chicago for owners of Milburn Light Electric cars who also could buy the vehicle without the batteries.

Electric forklifts have used battery swapping since at least 1946 and a rapid battery replacement system was implemented to help maintain 50 electric buses at the 2008 Summer Olympics in China.

“The superiority of the Electric for city work is already appreciated by the more experienced users of motor vehicles. In numbers the Electric is just beginning to make itself felt, but in proving certain economic laws it has already made history. You can call “white” “black” for a while but when it comes to a show-down somebody loses.

“Experienced motor truck users have ceased to buy motor trucks on price alone. You can buy a pleasure car by-product for half what you pay for a good Electric, but it will last one-third as long and in most cases it will be out of commission so often that the necessary reserve equipment will eat up any possible saving. That’s not exaggerating — just talk to the older users.

“Honestly now, did you ever seriously set out to learn why an Electric truck is different from a gasoline truck for city work? Another question: How big a premium in operating costs are you willing to pay for your prejudice or indifference to efficient delivery in the city?

“Would you be interested in learning what G.V. users say about G.V. efficiency? Then write today for Bulletin 104.”

Great story and photos of GMC Electric trucks

serviside.blogspot.com/2011/08/gmc-elect...during-my-daily.html

These “Automobile buses” were made by the Vehicle Equipment Company of Long Island City, New York. Their literature called them “A combination of the commercial and pleasure types.”


The Vehicle Equipment Company was started in Brooklyn in 1901 by Robert Lloyd and Lucius T. Gibbs. By 1903 they had relocated to Long Island City on Borden Avenue.

From 1901 to 1906 they built a large number of commercial electric vehicles including broughams, victorias, hansoms, landaulets, and delivery trucks, ambulances, brewery trucks, tipping coal trucks, etc., and of course, sightseeing buses such as those above. From 1903 to 1905 they also built a 3-seat electric car called the VE Electric. Almost all of their vehicles were single motor shaft-drive. The company went into receivership in 1906, and the General Vehicle Company (GeVeCo), owned by the General Electric Company, purchased the factory and reorganized to build both gasoline and electric vehicles, as well as replacement parts. Vehicles built from mid-1906 on were known as GV Electrics.

By 1915 there were some 2,000 GV Electrics in New York City alone, representing more than 25% of all trucks of all types working daily in the city. The style of “Automobile bus” seen above was also very popular in Washington D.C. and other cities as well.

Is the bloke up the ladder under a light pole stealing some electricity to charge his vehicle?

You never saw "Back to the Future?"

I imagine they will come up with things like huge capacitors at the houses of electric car owners, which charge up through the day and dump into the car when plugged in at night. Obviously wouldn't really work for trucks, the battery swap is a better idea there.

Jarrod.

Dun think the Gummint gunna fall for this
with all the taxs collected from fueling vehicles
They gunna miss out

They'll tax more for wot they missed out on
the price for a bucket or bag full of th@ electricy stuff could sky roket
All in Tax

On nuther topic
Our Priminister was accused of lying

4 C S he is a polition and lyin is how he got to where he is
we expect all polies to lie
as they say U kno a polition is lyin when ever they open there mouths

LOL

cya

Well the 'Gumnut' are about to loose a lot of money from fuel taxes as we wont be able to transport things with no Adblue. They are goiung to loose one way or the other.